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ZosoCon wrote:Doesn't everyone on here actually agree with one another on more levels than not? Skimming Stone seems to me a good voice on this one where both Naj and Mex would have to agree with what has been said by Skimming so far. I think we all love the fact that they don't release everything and are reserved because it's exciting and intriguing. It makes them one of our favorite bands. Yet at the same time we would love them to simply say hi, give us a small update once in a while (dare I say every 4-5 years?), or release some early tracks... There surely can be a middle ground where both parties are satisfied?
ZosoCon wrote:I think we all love the fact that they don't release everything and are reserved because it's exciting and intriguing. It makes them one of our favorite bands.
Lazerize wrote:And if they don't then they probably don't have anything worth releasing, or anything to say.
Lazerize wrote:And the fact remains that they don't owe fans anything. To think that they have a responsibility to fans to release old material, or communicate more is fucked up.
Lazerize wrote:How do we know that they have stuff releasing? We haven't heard it. People think they do, but that doesn't mean it's true. We already have RT35 and the Old Tunes tapes. Isn't that enough unreleased, embryonic material for us? We haven't heard that much of that kind of material of pretty much any band. And the fact remains that they don't owe fans anything. To think that they have a responsibility to fans to release old material, or communicate more is fucked up.
Mexicola wrote:I WOULD like to hear the other work too, purely out of curiosity. But I only want to hear it if they choose to share it. I feel bad enough having heard Old Tunes etc as they didn't officially release it.
Their art.
Their choice.
Mexicola wrote:You're right about the last point, I'll give you that much.
Opothecary wrote:They don't really owe anyone anything, of course...but that goes against how most artists present themselves in the 21st century. In an era where everyone is on Twitter and every last bit of ephemera is out there in the open, I'm sure their approach makes no sense to some, maybe especially younger listeners, because this is the sort of environment that they have always existed in. Even RDJ has caved, so its hard to be mad at people with an entitlement mentality because its possible those people have never known differently, but that's another story.
I'm of two minds about it, it keeps them and what they do special, and I feel someone well loved like BoC should keep the torch of quality control and "mystery" lit (I don't know how else to describe it) - but its important to know that people in life can still choose to not be open books. As someone else mentioned, the value and concept of curation has been lost on some listeners. I used to love the whole process of getting a new album home from the shop, checking out the art or lyrics while listening, and then if I really loved it, maybe tracking down the import singles later on to check out the outtakes...the romance of that whole process is all a dead art now, more or less. Vinyl's resurgence carries the tradition somewhat, but its the niche approach rather than the zeitgeist which is too bad. Not enough value is placed on the content and how it's presented.
But man, I'd really just love to know the song titles for R35TT!
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