Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:46 pm
Probably. It's only six digits long. If we knew what to do with the numbers, we could have a computer run through the possible missing number combinations in a fraction of a second and get our answer.re-phaelam-ed wrote:Waz wrote:You're talking about something different (attacks on large datasets encrypted with smaller keys). We're talking about one-time pads here, which done correctly mean that you can't reduce your guesses. Try every possible combination and all you'll get is every possible six-letter string.BunnyRabbit wrote:Waz wrote:I bamlem jack bauer.Ken Cosgrove wrote:New code found on a pub jukebox in Southern England, embedded within another song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAGWMRjuEtU
Not sure if I've missed something about what you're trying to rule out ilzmastr, but the point of a (properly-done) message encrypted with a one-time-pad is that you couldn't rule out the decryption keys, because the pad/key will be long enough that your guesses would produce EVERY possible message. You could run through every possible decryption, and you'd find the messages "MILEY C", "BIEBER", "COFFEE" and "DEMONS" in your output. The point is that without the correct pad, you wouldn't know which one is the message you're after.
You can brute force a crib to unlock the whole thing if you can guess one thing that is in the plain text and have an idea that the technique used isn't based on a random pad.
was just thinking...lets say someone guesses the 6th num. it probably wont do anything till they enable whatever it is supposed to reveal. everything is probably timed. the release date is set. that wont change. it will either be the release date...or we'll be sitting with 6 nums till they let us know what its for.
Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:48 pm
Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:50 pm
re-phaelam-ed wrote:tried something on the first num...
6/9/9/7/4/2 = 0.00132275132275
132275
Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:53 pm
re-phaelam-ed wrote:re-phaelam-ed wrote:tried something on the first num...
6/9/9/7/4/2 = 0.00132275132275
132275
k i was just f-ing around...but i divided each first number but the first number of the next set and got...
6/6/7/9/5 = 0.00317460317460
317460
Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:56 pm
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:10 am
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:17 am
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:19 am
Ken Cosgrove wrote:New code found on a pub jukebox in Southern England, embedded within another song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAGWMRjuEtU
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:23 am
Waz wrote:Solved it, everybody. Actually pretty simple!
Each number has a corresponding pair generated using transcyclic group reduction.
So we get:
699742 / 628315 / 717228 / 936557 / ------ / 519225
699723 / 628303 / 717207 / 936537 / ------ / 519200
Subtract the bottom row from the top row and:
19 12 21 20 -- 25
Each number corresponds to its letter in the alphabet (1 = a, 2 = b, etc.), and there's your answer.
And of course, the missing number is an Abelian pair, so we can predict that it's 632476 (with the corresponding transcyclic code 632456). That leaves us with the fully-deciphered text:
19 12 21 20 20 25
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:23 am
Waz wrote:Solved it, everybody. Actually pretty simple!
Each number has a corresponding pair generated using transcyclic group reduction.
So we get:
699742 / 628315 / 717228 / 936557 / ------ / 519225
699723 / 628303 / 717207 / 936537 / ------ / 519200
Subtract the bottom row from the top row and:
19 12 21 20 -- 25
Each number corresponds to its letter in the alphabet (1 = a, 2 = b, etc.), and there's your answer.
And of course, the missing number is an Abelian pair, so we can predict that it's 632476 (with the corresponding transcyclic code 632456). That leaves us with the fully-deciphered text:
19 12 21 20 20 25
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:26 am
duk_koo_kim wrote:ilzmastr wrote:After sufficient testing, my results indicate that it is highly unlikely that BoC are reusing a 3 member OTP on the 36 digit code (unlikely and not impossible, since the 36 digit code is not completely known yet). the most legible results of my brute force crack are here:
http://pastebin.com/PpFCN6tP
What I did:
Basically I assumed that every 2 digits of the 36 digit code constituted 1 member of the final message (to represent every letter of the alphabet with a number in you have to use at least 2 digits), and I tried all combinations of 3 member pads (00,00,00 to 26,26,26 [no more is needed, bunch of redundancy if you do until 99,99,99]) repeating throughout the BoC code, and then searched the fragments of each of those outputs against the Oxford dictionary and a little BoC list.
(for the unknown 5th BoC code portion i just assumed 01,01,01 - so I tested: [69,97,42,62,83,15,71,72,28,93,65,57,01,01,01,51,92,25])
cool shit! (if somewhat inconclusive...) how long did this take to compute?
"foxyawhpjdimpwinjg" looks like something my sister and I used to type into the text-to-speech program on our first computer (ca. 1992) in one of our many attempts to break it...
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:36 am
Waz wrote:Not sure if I've missed something about what you're trying to rule out ilzmastr, but the point of a (properly-done) message encrypted with a one-time-pad is that you couldn't rule out the decryption keys, because the pad/key will be long enough that your guesses would produce EVERY possible message. You could run through every possible decryption, and you'd find the messages "MILEY C", "BIEBER", "COFFEE" and "DEMONS" in your output. The point is that without the correct pad, you wouldn't know which one is the message you're after.
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:41 am
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:44 am
Douay-Rheims wrote:i've been plugging these codes into my Enigma machine all evening all all I get is "New Album in June"
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:44 am
Waz wrote:I'm betting on it being a "collect the numbers and then collect the key" thing
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:58 am
Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:59 am
detroit lofi wrote:Someone on Facebook said the final numbers were just aired on BBC 6 music. Any word of that?
Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:01 am
Vostok wrote:detroit lofi wrote:Someone on Facebook said the final numbers were just aired on BBC 6 music. Any word of that?
519225 was played on BBC6 like 8 hours ago
Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:22 am
Mexicola wrote:dredd1971 wrote:What is the significance and reason the codes were shown to us in the order they did xxxxxx/xxxxxx/xxxxxx/XXXXXX/xxxxxx/xxxxxx and so on............That is a big thing overlooked
That's an excellent point actually.
Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:42 am