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Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:04 am
by outhudd
Was there ever any mention of Boards of Canada having any kind of contractual deal with Warp where they commit to producing X amount of albums?

You hear this sometimes becomes a burden for bands and they're just eager to get some freedom from the terms of their record label.

Warp, of course, are reasonable people, and I can't imagine this being the case here but I wonder if anything like this was ever mentioned?

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:19 am
by Cupz
outhudd wrote:Warp, of course, are reasonable people.


What makes you say this?

From what I hear WARP has their roster by the balls. In the Autechre AMA they said "Warp owns every sound we make, no joke.". This probably counts for BoC as well.

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:02 am
by Negamuse
I think it's a reference to their "We Are Reasonable People" compilation :)

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:26 am
by Cupz
Woooosh. That flew right passed me.

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:34 am
by outhudd
WARP = We Are Reasonable People

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:49 pm
by 2020k
Out Hud is an underrated band, if that's what your username is referencing. I'm sure BOC was under some sort of number of albums contractual obligation at one time since it was standard protocol in the 90's. However, the times have changed and WARP seems to be catching up to them (RE: their newfound activity with social media) so I'm not sure how their contracts would work at the moment. One thing is for sure...I'm sure Boards are locked into their contracts pretty tightly since they're one of the staples of the label.

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:25 pm
by fujee
outhudd wrote:WARP = We Are Reasonable People


Could also be We Aren't Reasonable People... :wink:

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:33 pm
by Mexicola
We Are Right Pricks.
We Ate Ray Parlour.
The list goes on.

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:42 pm
by breadmaker
"the Scottish duo has just released their debut album Music Has The Right To Children on Warp Records. The first of five on the Sheffield label"

- from the "Bunker Full Of Memories" article, Forcefield 1998.

so, assuming the author here has their facts straight, and also assuming that EPs don't count towards the fulfillment of a contract, and that Twoism is officially considered an EP (despite qualifying as album length,) then in theory there should be one more album left to go.

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:37 am
by Techboy
this thread sent me on my biennial dive into the idm mailing list archive. lots of good old nonsense.

mysterious compo that never happened - doesnt seem to be Psychogeographic-X

Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 01:25:36 +0100
From: "sm@mfr" <mfr@dial.pipex.com>
To: "I.D.M." <idm@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (idm) i'm alive / mfr 01 12"
X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161

btw *confirmed* artist line up for mfr 01 " the scottish ep" [12"]

all exclusive trax

electroscope [wurlitzer jukebox]
voigt kampf [panic trax]
chris douglas [ost]
boards of canada [skam]
fabric soap stars [mfr]
lucky & easy [mfr]

scuse the bandwith

stuart @ mfr

http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/mfr/

cutting edge mail order..elecktronic label

[esoteric, non-generic material wanted]


poor prediction
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 01:20:40 -0700
From: "Chris.Hilker" <cspot@hyperreal.org>
To: Ironic Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (idm) Warp USA

<cut>

I have to wonder how Warp has any kind of leverage in negotiations at this
point - at this point, as far as I can tell, their roster consists of Aphex,
Autechre, Squarepusher... um, Plaid and Jimi Tenor. Oh, and I thought I heard
they signed Weatherall again but they've yet to announce it so maybe it
didn't happen. And don't forget that Aphex has, what, one album left on his
deal with Warp? Frankly, Warp's best days are in the past.


live idm sick burn
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 14:37:57 +0000
From: The Cosmic Crofter <crofter@ehx.ednet.co.uk>
To: idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (idm) Dumb Type
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54)

On 27 Nov 97 at 17:43, PUCKERED1@aol.com wrote:

> np: boards of canada - live ;)
>

You mean, "on stage" ...



on aquarius:

Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 21:18:57 +0000
From: "Aaron S. Gregory" <gregas@che.ufl.edu>
To: idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (idm) BoC 7"
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC)

GD wrote:
>
> Boards of Canada 7" Anybody got the scoop on this?

Boards of Canada - Aquarius
December 1997
Skam (KMAS 001)
Limited to 500 copies
7"

according to mike [of boards], "aquarius"
is a lo-fi "disko piss take" with a sample
from a well-known 70's musical. [which
musical? i have no idea] the flip
side track [title unknown as of yet] is
more abrasive, but just as lo-fi as we might
expect from them.


Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:10:30 +0000
From: deepart <mark@koons.demon.co.uk>
To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (idm) boards of canada
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3

boards of canada - aquarius KMAS001 7" 500 copies only

tracklising__

aquarius
chinook

release date - january 5th :)

neither of these tracks will appear on their forthcoming album which is a
joint project between skam & warp records.

boards of canada originate from the north east coast of scotland, where they
begun recording on a home hi-fi set up around 1983. various xtra band
members have come & gone since 1986, but the main duo of mike & marcus have
always stuck to the original home made sound. their first vinyl release was
_twoism_ an eight track LP limited to 100 copies which they produced &
financed themselves in 1995. h aving supported Ae, panasonic & cylob in july
of 1996, they released the _high scores_ e.p. through skam records.

1997 saw their second support slot with Ae and a headline @ versivo [the
skam club] in manchester. their live show soon became a talking point,
highlighted by their continued use of video footage
derived from 8mm film. after a string of remix work, the summer of 1997 saw
them play alongside Ae @ the phoenix festival & mike paradinas @ the
sunflower festival in munich. this was their followed by an autumn mini tour
and dates in ireland, germany & switzerland, and the band also played live @
the opening night of warp's blech night in london. along with their
forthcoming album due out through skam/warp, the band will also start work
on an album for mike paradinas' new label, planet mu.


From: The Cosmic Crofter <crofter@ehx.ednet.co.uk>
To: Simon O Conmhaigh <soconm.ar4@compapp.dcu.ie>
CC: idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: re: (idm) Fw: boards of canada # 2
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54)

On 15 Jan 98 at 11:54, Simon O Conmhaigh wrote:
> you sure they played in ireland?

Horse's mooth, honest.
__



BoC come out via rep for labour in scottish politics shocker

Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:34:50 +0000
From: The Cosmic Crofter <crofter@ehx.ednet.co.uk>
To: dis2 <dis2@ukc.ac.uk>, idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (idm) BoC album
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54)

On 24 Mar 98 at 21:33, dis2 wrote:

> There was a description in the press release talking about
> subliminal inserts in their songs, and there are similar bits
> throughout the album with voices scratched or cut up into single
> syllables. Bits I can make out include 'Boards of Canada', 'Eight',
> 'I Love Mum', 'Orange', 'Yeah, that's right'.

Have you spotted, "Vote Labour in the next Election" or "Obey the BoC
Master"? ;)




anyway i couldn't find the post that i'm sure i've read where it is specified "5 albums". the interview quote comes close i guess.

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:44 am
by Negamuse
Great diving, some interesting things there :)

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:32 am
by outhudd
About the supposed Dublin gig, I followed that up with the promoter a good few years ago (who are still active, they put Ae on in Dublin a few years ago, the name escapes me now) anyway he said the BoC gig never happened, despite The Cosmic Crofter (who you think would know) on the idm list saying it did.

But yes that five albums mention from that article is exactly what I was looking for, thanks breadmaker

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:44 am
by Mexicola
Genuinely interesting digging there.

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:51 am
by Omikron
Techboy wrote:
1997 saw their second support slot with Ae and a headline @ versivo [the
skam club] in manchester. their live show soon became a talking point,
highlighted by their continued use of video footage
derived from 8mm film. after a string of remix work, the summer of 1997 saw
them play alongside Ae @ the phoenix festival & mike paradinas @ the
sunflower festival in munich. this was their followed by an autumn mini tour
and dates in ireland, germany & switzerland, and the band also played live @
the opening night of warp's blech night in london. along with their
forthcoming album due out through skam/warp, the band will also start work
on an album for mike paradinas' new label, planet mu.


It is painful to read how many live performances happened that we will never hear, especially during this point in their career when they seemed a bit more carefree with their sound.

Also the number of releases that were planned but never went through. I refuse to die before these early tracks are unearthed. All of them.

I wonder if Mike Paradinas made any secret recordings... He would at least have some interesting anecdotes to tell.

Their live show became a 'talking point', yet we have hardly any reliable information about it. Does anyone know about this 'autumn mini tour'? '97 must have been a good year for them.

Re: Contractual Obligations

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:25 pm
by Flory
More interesting I die to know of the 96 live tour's.