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Has this been mentioned before?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:54 am
by mechanismj
The Breaking Nehushtan tune is at the end of the Surfaise remix.

I know a lot of threads have been made about how they re-use material, but I don't ever recall seeing this one in them before.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:09 am
by harpoon dodger
Weirrrrrd. Ive gotta hear this now. 8)

Re: Has this been mentioned before?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:01 am
by BunnyRabbit
mechanismj wrote:The Breaking Nehushtan tune is at the end of the Surfaise remix.

I know a lot of threads have been made about how they re-use material, but I don't ever recall seeing this one in them before.


Even without checking that sounds right!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:09 am
by mechanismj
Yet more proof that those tapes are indeed legit.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:47 pm
by radiateme
Ah, yes. Love that part, as well as BN. Very similar.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:52 pm
by ross adey
tis a nice tune alright. in the meat beat manifesto remix the synth part at 4:40 sounds similar to 1969. thought i heard the weird choral sample at the beginning of happy cycling in there too.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:02 pm
by mechanismj
ross adey wrote:tis a nice tune alright. in the meat beat manifesto remix the synth part at 4:40 sounds similar to 1969. thought i heard the weird choral sample at the beginning of happy cycling in there too.


Hey, you're right! I believe that is the same choral sample. That tune that kicks in at 4:40 does sound a lot like 1969, too. Crazy. Never noticed this stuff before.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:45 am
by Sputnik
Also, there's a "swirly" scale all over MHTRTC which I'm pretty sure has the same source: Rue the Whirl, Aquarius, An Eagle in Your Mind... somebody told me it might be a Jean-Michel Jarre sample but I seriously doubt it, although it sort of souns like Oxygene Part 1; at any rate, it's obvious it's always the same sound. I think it might be from some children's show, I kind of remember that kind of sounds in those programmes.

Also, this one is more obvious and everyone knows it, I guess, but the middle part of A is to B is the middle part of Sixtyniner, and the ending of Rue the Whirl is I Saw Drones.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:26 pm
by Techboy
Sputnik wrote:Also, there's a "swirly" scale all over MHTRTC which I'm pretty sure has the same source: Rue the Whirl, Aquarius, An Eagle in Your Mind... somebody told me it might be a Jean-Michel Jarre sample but I seriously doubt it, although it sort of souns like Oxygene Part 1; at any rate, it's obvious it's always the same sound. I think it might be from some children's show, I kind of remember that kind of sounds in those programmes.
Oh yeah. I was thinking about that the other day. I have no idea of the source but they really like it dont they.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:07 pm
by Lawrence
Sputnik wrote:the ending of Rue the Whirl is I Saw Drones.


No, they are two completely different melodies.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:24 pm
by mechanismj
Lawrence wrote:
Sputnik wrote:the ending of Rue the Whirl is I Saw Drones.


No, they are two completely different melodies.


Agreed. The end of Rue The Whirl is just something playing backwards.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:31 pm
by mechanismj
Sputnik wrote:Also, there's a "swirly" scale all over MHTRTC which I'm pretty sure has the same source: Rue the Whirl, Aquarius, An Eagle in Your Mind... somebody told me it might be a Jean-Michel Jarre sample but I seriously doubt it, although it sort of souns like Oxygene Part 1; at any rate, it's obvious it's always the same sound. I think it might be from some children's show, I kind of remember that kind of sounds in those programmes.

Also, this one is more obvious and everyone knows it, I guess, but the middle part of A is to B is the middle part of Sixtyniner, and the ending of Rue the Whirl is I Saw Drones.


I dunno. Them being the crazy sound designers they are, I don't think they would use the exact same source for all of those tracks... especially if they were on the same album. They all sound slightly different to me.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:07 pm
by ross adey
they may edit them slightly, but they definately re-use samples. not because they're short of them, but because it's an integral part of sonic/psychedelic production. like a fleeting picture of a face that you thought you have forgotten re-appearing when you least expect it. in common terms - a flashback. "you know about the walrus and me, man? you know that we're as close as can be, man. well here's another clue for you all - the walrus was paul." the beatles - glass onion

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:49 pm
by YELLOW
i also like how they reuse ideas too, an eagle in your mind in sunshine recorder....and i still think the clear vocal sample in alpha and omega is saying now this is very irresponsible, something they chopped up for telephasic workshop