Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:12 pm
I don't think it's about "defeating the teacher". At least, it shouldn't be. For me at least, BOC is just a valued inspiration. A couple of cool guys. A chief inspiration, even. But not an idol that I am trying to surpass or anything like that. I don't think music should be treated like a game, where you have to try to be better than people. It's not a competition.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:21 pm
saturdayindex wrote:I don't think it's about "defeating the teacher". At least, it shouldn't be. For me at least, BOC is just a valued inspiration. A couple of cool guys. A chief inspiration, even. But not an idol that I am trying to surpass or anything like that. I don't think music should be treated like a game, where you have to try to be better than people. It's not a competition.
well put. i agree with you totally on this.
still a neat write up.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:42 pm
saturdayindex wrote:I don't think it's about "defeating the teacher". At least, it shouldn't be. For me at least, BOC is just a valued inspiration. A couple of cool guys. A chief inspiration, even. But not an idol that I am trying to surpass or anything like that. I don't think music should be treated like a game, where you have to try to be better than people. It's not a competition.
hear hear
i've been thinking along these lines myself a lot lately, the attitude of competitiveness and lofty analysis and great big hungry expectations for everything are part of what's got me in such a crummy mood musically. i'm totally glad there are people at twoism who feel the same way.
Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:10 pm
Yeah, I agree, it was a nice write up.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:26 am
saturdayindex wrote:I don't think it's about "defeating the teacher". At least, it shouldn't be. For me at least, BOC is just a valued inspiration. A couple of cool guys. A chief inspiration, even. But not an idol that I am trying to surpass or anything like that. I don't think music should be treated like a game, where you have to try to be better than people. It's not a competition.
Well said man
Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:23 am
saturdayindex wrote:I don't think it's about "defeating the teacher". At least, it shouldn't be. For me at least, BOC is just a valued inspiration. A couple of cool guys. A chief inspiration, even. But not an idol that I am trying to surpass or anything like that. I don't think music should be treated like a game, where you have to try to be better than people. It's not a competition.
Understandable reply but don't foget it is media... The headline should be appealing to trigger people to read the article. The author didn't really meant it in this way as he described in the article. He ends the review with the comment that it seems as if the BoCish sound is becoming a new (sub)genre.
Whether this is questionable or not, I personally agree with it. I think some of us have difficulties to step outside of the IDM genre and take an objective view of the genre itself. I remember a reply somewhere on this board where one described that heavy metal sounds all the same for an outsider, while there are many different movements for an insider.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:04 am
Aesthetics wrote:The author didn't really meant it in this way as he described in the article. He ends the review with the comment that it seems as if the BoCish sound is becoming a new (sub)genre.
It's a she. Inge is a female name.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:26 am
Fredd-E wrote:Aesthetics wrote:The author didn't really meant it in this way as he described in the article. He ends the review with the comment that it seems as if the BoCish sound is becoming a new (sub)genre.
It's a she. Inge is a female name.
It's a he, Inge can be used for both but it's very rare.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:36 am
Weird. I stand corrected. But it's weird because I remember I did a google search yesterday or the day before, don't remember exactly, and found his name but with references to "her/she". But ok. It's clear now.Aesthetics wrote:Fredd-E wrote:Aesthetics wrote:The author didn't really meant it in this way as he described in the article. He ends the review with the comment that it seems as if the BoCish sound is becoming a new (sub)genre.
It's a she. Inge is a female name.
It's a he, Inge can be used for both but it's very rare.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:58 pm
Aesthetics wrote:saturdayindex wrote:I don't think it's about "defeating the teacher". At least, it shouldn't be. For me at least, BOC is just a valued inspiration. A couple of cool guys. A chief inspiration, even. But not an idol that I am trying to surpass or anything like that. I don't think music should be treated like a game, where you have to try to be better than people. It's not a competition.
Understandable reply but don't foget it is media... The headline should be appealing to trigger people to read the article. The author didn't really meant it in this way as he described in the article. He ends the review with the comment that it seems as if the BoCish sound is becoming a new (sub)genre.
Whether this is questionable or not, I personally agree with it. I think some of us have difficulties to step outside of the IDM genre and take an objective view of the genre itself. I remember a reply somewhere on this board where one described that heavy metal sounds all the same for an outsider, while there are many different movements for an insider.
Agreed--the article itself was near spot-on. That heavy metal metaphor of which you speak was probably mentioned by Guido--if not, I'm sure he could vouch for it.
Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:10 pm
Thank you for all your constructive and adult comments on my humble review. More importantly, thank you all for your awesome music. It was and is a genuine pleasure to listen to One on Twoism!
Robin pretty much said everything that needs to be said. The title is mainly to appeal. It's an often criticized journalists' trick, but it does do the trick. The really interesting point, I think, is whether or not BOC created its own genre. Your own discussion on the first 5 pages of this thread (which I read with much pleasure) inspired me to this thought, and I tried to elaborate on it.
But, most importantly, the review on Eclectro attracted a couple of hundred readers, most of them most probably unaware of Twoism, let alone the compilations that stem from it. I hope the review therefore helps the gifted musicians that made it to the compilation to be heard by a handful more people. Eclectro is meant to be a filter for good music, not a critical review site. I hope and think that my article about Twoism served that purpose!
Robin pretty much said everything that needs to be said. The title is mainly to appeal. It's an often criticized journalists' trick, but it does do the trick. The really interesting point, I think, is whether or not BOC created its own genre. Your own discussion on the first 5 pages of this thread (which I read with much pleasure) inspired me to this thought, and I tried to elaborate on it.
But, most importantly, the review on Eclectro attracted a couple of hundred readers, most of them most probably unaware of Twoism, let alone the compilations that stem from it. I hope the review therefore helps the gifted musicians that made it to the compilation to be heard by a handful more people. Eclectro is meant to be a filter for good music, not a critical review site. I hope and think that my article about Twoism served that purpose!
Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:29 pm
oot003mp3.rar was downloaded 698 times, of which 469 in June!!
39 times the referrer was the Eclectro article. Note that this number is not complete since many may have downloaded the files by going to the OOT3 site first and then clicking on the download link. Thanks Eclectro
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39 times the referrer was the Eclectro article. Note that this number is not complete since many may have downloaded the files by going to the OOT3 site first and then clicking on the download link. Thanks Eclectro
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:42 pm
Welcome on Twoism Inge!
To complete the OoT3 statistics.
digital copies: 698
physical copies: 58
To complete the OoT3 statistics.
digital copies: 698
physical copies: 58
Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:28 am
saturdayindex wrote:That heavy metal metaphor of which you speak was probably mentioned by Guido--if not, I'm sure he could vouch for it.
i think he meant my comment in this thread, in my post in response to davefrom2001: http://www.twoism.org/forum/viewtopic.p ... 7&start=25
Welcome to the place Inge! we all appreciate your writeup of the OoT series. it's that kind of thoughtful attention that keeps a project like this going in the world outside of Twoism!
Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:42 am
Aesthetics wrote:Welcome on Twoism Inge!
To complete the OoT3 statistics.
digital copies: 698
physical copies: 58
That's pretty sweet!
Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:16 pm
Aesthetics wrote:Welcome on Twoism Inge!
To complete the OoT3 statistics.
digital copies: 698
physical copies: 58
8 of those physical ones are mine (sending them to people)!
Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:54 pm
saturdayindex wrote:Aesthetics wrote:Welcome on Twoism Inge!
To complete the OoT3 statistics.
digital copies: 698
physical copies: 58
8 of those physical ones are mine (sending them to people)!
I wonder if the old BoC address still works, if it does, someone should send them a copy.
Also, welcome to Twoism Inge.
Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:14 pm
747Music wrote:I wonder if the old BoC address still works, if it does, someone should send them a copy.
Also, welcome to Twoism Inge.
There are still 2 copies left to be send... shall I?
Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:54 pm
I shouldn't do it. The whole idea was to distantiate from BoC in the first place. Also BoC is very picky in their musical output, by which I think they have difficulties to listen to not-so-perfect-music which doesn't sound like the way they would've created it. So, yeah, I dunno...Aesthetics wrote:shall I?
Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:01 pm
My thought as well.Fredd-E wrote:I shouldn't do it. The whole idea was to distantiate from BoC in the first place. Also BoC is very picky in their musical output, by which I think they have difficulties to listen to not-so-perfect-music which doesn't sound like the way they would've created it. So, yeah, I dunno...Aesthetics wrote:shall I?
I proposed it because I've heard about this idea before. I just want to point out that it can be done if the majority want it.