OrangeRomeda wrote:I must say as an aside, no matter how f*cked up the US is right now, when I smoke a joint and listen to "Everything You Do Is A Balloon", I am overcome with a feeling of profound certainty that everything is going to be okay.
Mexicola wrote:I guess I just hoped that when the revolution came, it didn't involve a misogynistic, bigoted, egomaniac giving succour to neo-nazis. If this current shower of excrement is the best we can summon up as a species (and I include Putin, Nigel fucking Farage et al) then perhaps we don't deserve better. Except, my 5 year old daughter does. So no, I can't accept it and I won't.
Opothecary wrote:Trump's ascension was a direct reaction to the inability to successfully denigrate/humiliate/impeach the USA's first black president.
Aerial Boundaries wrote:The left is not solely or even mostly comprised of that type of thinking. The anti-racist left isn't out to kill all white people.
If you refuse to take a side you're allowing racism to rise unabated. The fact there is authoritarianism within the left (which is not some monolithic entity) is not an excuse not to engage. "You can't be neutral on a moving train."
Negamuse wrote:In fact actually no, I'll say that once again this thread is going way off topic, (had I gone on record as supporting his idiocy I wouldn't want to talk about him either, but I sure hope id steer the argument off course without ploughing it headlong and carefree into another marginalised group in the process) and as much as I want to tell you the many ways what you just said is hurtful, paranoid and at least as wrong as anything else you've said in this thread, doing so would only distract from what it's about which is: Trump is a dangerous embarrassment who's time in office is surely drawing to a close. I only hope he goes before the fucker gets his Reichstag fire and it's not too late to rid the world of the poisonous ideology he seems to have reawoken.
machinea wrote:Jesus f'n christ. As someone who is apart of that LGBT group and lives it everyday I feel pretty comfortable saying you are nothing but a fucking tourist and are utterly clueless. You are talking out of your ass about parents trying to have a trophy trans child and having them go under the knife before 18 yo. The most common form of treatment is hormone suppression in the teenage years and gender re-assignment at 18 or older which is not without its complications but it is a very complicated matter that one can only hope gets easier. I hope one day gender re-assignment is as easy as a nose job because really who gives a crap what your gonosomes dictate.
"It is just when pedophiles start trying to take advantage of movements like that to get themselves recognised and legitimized that it becomes really worrying." Yeah we booted NAMBLA from the get go, and that was quite a while ago probably when you were still shitting yourself if indeed you were even born yet, pedophiles seem to be pretty exclusively heterosexual men who occasionally run for the senate.
Now get the hell off my lawn.
machinea wrote:You're right I haven't got any idea. Are you queer? And I'm not being rhetorical, I'd really like an answer to that.
I am however pretty sure I am older and lived through more of this than you have. I've been out since 1987.
There are things going on in the queer community I'm not down with but really don't speak to much namely issues between transwomen and lesbians in which I think both are wrong depending on the issue And also is something that is not happening in the transmen vs gay male identities at the same level. And that is about all I'll say.
I would also argue that pedophilia has never had anything to do with LGBT communities ever. They may have tried to ally themselves with the 'other' but were never welcome (irrespective of the massive age differences in many gay relationships in the days before Stonewall due to needing to be shown the ropes by elders e.g. Christopher Isherwood and Don Bacardy).
I actually have sat in on meetings with those who head up the DSM and why they choose to still classify Transgenderism as mental health issue. Namely it is so these individuals can receive health care coverage with their insurance. But the treatment protocol is to treat the stress felt with the condition but not to 'cure' it. The general consensus from professionals is that it should be stricken from the DSM. I don't doubt there are people who take advantage of others but by and large this is a non issue, I don't believe there is some conspiracy among practitioners and parents to convert people and make them believe they have gender dysphoria. Occam's Razor, most likely the people claiming it actually feel that way, and I'm just going to take them at their word.
What this has to do with Trump though? Nothing.
Jonse wrote:Pestilence - be silent. No one is listening.
Prithee all be hushed. I had warned you of this, Mexi.
I can no longer stand this -HORSE SHIT- and have contemplated leaving since its inception. If it need be discussed, why not create a board one can choose to hide called "fake politic"? Better yet, why not lump it in the US politics thread? Publicly acknowledging that this sort of thing has driven me away from Twoism, as I do not need reminders that I am stuck in a hole of bile and shit. This is all I have to say, without bias, and shall not further post in this derelict thread.
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