Yeah guys, BOC would be really happy if WARP just put their big studio secret in official marketing blurbs
Would be extremely smart from a business perspective too
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Helicoid wrote:I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but i believe i know what the "secret weapon" is and surprisingly, no one has mentioned it at all. I know most of you believe it is a synth, but I personally think the secret weapon is something more than that. I believe the "magic eye that opens up" clue is the most important, yet it has been the most overlooked. Getting to the point, Webcor was an electronic equipment manufacturer in the 40's-50's that made a line of tube-amplified reel-to-reel recorders that happen to have a "Magic Eye" valve that "opens" and lights up green when the tubes are properly warmed up. the tape distortion combined with vintage tube amplification would give any sound that bocesque nostalgic tinge. Furthermore, one of these reel-to-reels can still be purchased off of ebay for less than $100, putting it in the established price range. Another cool feature it had was a built-in microphone which im sure was far from high-fidelity. I dont think boc would emphasize a "secret weapon" if it was just a synth. Their magic doesn't come from their synths but from their processes. This leads me to believe it was a R2R/tubeamp combo. Many have already mentioned the grundig r2r's but I have yet to see a convincing "magic eye" on any of their models. Well, there you have it. Thoughts? Comments?
ZosoCon wrote:Helicoid wrote:I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but i believe i know what the "secret weapon" is and surprisingly, no one has mentioned it at all. I know most of you believe it is a synth, but I personally think the secret weapon is something more than that. I believe the "magic eye that opens up" clue is the most important, yet it has been the most overlooked. Getting to the point, Webcor was an electronic equipment manufacturer in the 40's-50's that made a line of tube-amplified reel-to-reel recorders that happen to have a "Magic Eye" valve that "opens" and lights up green when the tubes are properly warmed up. the tape distortion combined with vintage tube amplification would give any sound that bocesque nostalgic tinge. Furthermore, one of these reel-to-reels can still be purchased off of ebay for less than $100, putting it in the established price range. Another cool feature it had was a built-in microphone which im sure was far from high-fidelity. I dont think boc would emphasize a "secret weapon" if it was just a synth. Their magic doesn't come from their synths but from their processes. This leads me to believe it was a R2R/tubeamp combo. Many have already mentioned the grundig r2r's but I have yet to see a convincing "magic eye" on any of their models. Well, there you have it. Thoughts? Comments?
I like the way you think Helicoid, good call with the magic eye correlation. Though I'm thinking that the brothers would already have something like this by now, considering their resources. After all, you can readily find one on ebay like you said for a (mere) $100-200...
I'm thinking something way beyond this, something that is more of a one-of-a-kind?
Oh man, if only we could catch a glimpse of their forest bunker of toys.
Helicoid wrote:ZosoCon wrote:Helicoid wrote:I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but i believe i know what the "secret weapon" is and surprisingly, no one has mentioned it at all. I know most of you believe it is a synth, but I personally think the secret weapon is something more than that. I believe the "magic eye that opens up" clue is the most important, yet it has been the most overlooked. Getting to the point, Webcor was an electronic equipment manufacturer in the 40's-50's that made a line of tube-amplified reel-to-reel recorders that happen to have a "Magic Eye" valve that "opens" and lights up green when the tubes are properly warmed up. the tape distortion combined with vintage tube amplification would give any sound that bocesque nostalgic tinge. Furthermore, one of these reel-to-reels can still be purchased off of ebay for less than $100, putting it in the established price range. Another cool feature it had was a built-in microphone which im sure was far from high-fidelity. I dont think boc would emphasize a "secret weapon" if it was just a synth. Their magic doesn't come from their synths but from their processes. This leads me to believe it was a R2R/tubeamp combo. Many have already mentioned the grundig r2r's but I have yet to see a convincing "magic eye" on any of their models. Well, there you have it. Thoughts? Comments?
I like the way you think Helicoid, good call with the magic eye correlation. Though I'm thinking that the brothers would already have something like this by now, considering their resources. After all, you can readily find one on ebay like you said for a (mere) $100-200...
I'm thinking something way beyond this, something that is more of a one-of-a-kind?
Oh man, if only we could catch a glimpse of their forest bunker of toys.
If i recall correctly, the brothers said they bought it from a friend on a bus or something? The webcor was built into a small case with a carrying handle, perfect for carrying around (on a bus). I doubt you'd have the same luck trying to lug around a cs80. The sh-101 is portable but theres no definitive "magic eye". Anyways, im convinced. I just figured i would share. As far as other crazier effects, there's really no limit to what you can do if you daisy-chain a few r2r's together. And I'm entirely sure they own more than 1 r2r.
Helicoid wrote:I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but i believe i know what the "secret weapon" is and surprisingly, no one has mentioned it at all. I know most of you believe it is a synth, but I personally think the secret weapon is something more than that. I believe the "magic eye that opens up" clue is the most important, yet it has been the most overlooked. Getting to the point, Webcor was an electronic equipment manufacturer in the 40's-50's that made a line of tube-amplified reel-to-reel recorders that happen to have a "Magic Eye" valve that "opens" and lights up green when the tubes are properly warmed up. the tape distortion combined with vintage tube amplification would give any sound that bocesque nostalgic tinge. Furthermore, one of these reel-to-reels can still be purchased off of ebay for less than $100, putting it in the established price range. Another cool feature it had was a built-in microphone which im sure was far from high-fidelity. I dont think boc would emphasize a "secret weapon" if it was just a synth. Their magic doesn't come from their synths but from their processes. This leads me to believe it was a R2R/tubeamp combo. Many have already mentioned the grundig r2r's but I have yet to see a convincing "magic eye" on any of their models. Well, there you have it. Thoughts? Comments?
ZosoCon wrote:True, I think we have to think beyond the sought after cs-80s, sh-101s, vcs-3s, etc. guessing the bro's have these amazing pieces of equipment...then again, i don't know...maybe a crazy portable version of one of these things is what they were after, i.e., of the vcs-3 branch like a EMS Synthi A or something.
Kure wrote:Helicoid wrote:I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but i believe i know what the "secret weapon" is and surprisingly, no one has mentioned it at all. I know most of you believe it is a synth, but I personally think the secret weapon is something more than that. I believe the "magic eye that opens up" clue is the most important, yet it has been the most overlooked. Getting to the point, Webcor was an electronic equipment manufacturer in the 40's-50's that made a line of tube-amplified reel-to-reel recorders that happen to have a "Magic Eye" valve that "opens" and lights up green when the tubes are properly warmed up. the tape distortion combined with vintage tube amplification would give any sound that bocesque nostalgic tinge. Furthermore, one of these reel-to-reels can still be purchased off of ebay for less than $100, putting it in the established price range. Another cool feature it had was a built-in microphone which im sure was far from high-fidelity. I dont think boc would emphasize a "secret weapon" if it was just a synth. Their magic doesn't come from their synths but from their processes. This leads me to believe it was a R2R/tubeamp combo. Many have already mentioned the grundig r2r's but I have yet to see a convincing "magic eye" on any of their models. Well, there you have it. Thoughts? Comments?
My brother has the exact Regent recorder! Does this mean we possess the dreaded "secret weapon"?! I must use it to create beautiful BoC music at once!
Helicoid wrote:I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but i believe i know what the "secret weapon" is and surprisingly, no one has mentioned it at all. I know most of you believe it is a synth, but I personally think the secret weapon is something more than that. I believe the "magic eye that opens up" clue is the most important, yet it has been the most overlooked. Getting to the point, Webcor was an electronic equipment manufacturer in the 40's-50's that made a line of tube-amplified reel-to-reel recorders that happen to have a "Magic Eye" valve that "opens" and lights up green when the tubes are properly warmed up. the tape distortion combined with vintage tube amplification would give any sound that bocesque nostalgic tinge. Furthermore, one of these reel-to-reels can still be purchased off of ebay for less than $100, putting it in the established price range. Another cool feature it had was a built-in microphone which im sure was far from high-fidelity. I dont think boc would emphasize a "secret weapon" if it was just a synth. Their magic doesn't come from their synths but from their processes. This leads me to believe it was a R2R/tubeamp combo. Many have already mentioned the grundig r2r's but I have yet to see a convincing "magic eye" on any of their models. Well, there you have it. Thoughts? Comments?
REMIX wrote:In keeping with the in-and-out-of-consciousness, dreamlike quality of their music, Sandison and Eoin don't write and record in any sort of linear fashion. Rather, at any given time, they have various song ideas gestating in their two primary studios. With three kits, Sandison's studio is set up for drums, and Eoin's live area caters to piano and vocals. Whether they're working separately or together, getting ideas down is generally a result of recording extended jams to tape on anything from a Tascam MSR-16 reel-to-reel to an old Revox recorder to a Grundig machine to an ordinary cassette.
“We love these low-quality tape machines,” Eoin says. “The great thing with machines such as the Grundig is that it's tragically bad. Whatever you record into it just doesn't come out unscathed. There's a ‘magic eye’ valve display on it, and when you hit the tape deck with the right volume, enough to fill out the magic eye, it's at that exact sweet spot that it is saturating the tape. So if you then sample back the playback, it's got a thousand years' grain on it.”
Techboy wrote:Helicoid wrote:I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but i believe i know what the "secret weapon" is and surprisingly, no one has mentioned it at all. I know most of you believe it is a synth, but I personally think the secret weapon is something more than that. I believe the "magic eye that opens up" clue is the most important, yet it has been the most overlooked. Getting to the point, Webcor was an electronic equipment manufacturer in the 40's-50's that made a line of tube-amplified reel-to-reel recorders that happen to have a "Magic Eye" valve that "opens" and lights up green when the tubes are properly warmed up. the tape distortion combined with vintage tube amplification would give any sound that bocesque nostalgic tinge. Furthermore, one of these reel-to-reels can still be purchased off of ebay for less than $100, putting it in the established price range. Another cool feature it had was a built-in microphone which im sure was far from high-fidelity. I dont think boc would emphasize a "secret weapon" if it was just a synth. Their magic doesn't come from their synths but from their processes. This leads me to believe it was a R2R/tubeamp combo. Many have already mentioned the grundig r2r's but I have yet to see a convincing "magic eye" on any of their models. Well, there you have it. Thoughts? Comments?
http://bocpages.org/wiki/Emotional_AbuseREMIX wrote:In keeping with the in-and-out-of-consciousness, dreamlike quality of their music, Sandison and Eoin don't write and record in any sort of linear fashion. Rather, at any given time, they have various song ideas gestating in their two primary studios. With three kits, Sandison's studio is set up for drums, and Eoin's live area caters to piano and vocals. Whether they're working separately or together, getting ideas down is generally a result of recording extended jams to tape on anything from a Tascam MSR-16 reel-to-reel to an old Revox recorder to a Grundig machine to an ordinary cassette.
“We love these low-quality tape machines,” Eoin says. “The great thing with machines such as the Grundig is that it's tragically bad. Whatever you record into it just doesn't come out unscathed. There's a ‘magic eye’ valve display on it, and when you hit the tape deck with the right volume, enough to fill out the magic eye, it's at that exact sweet spot that it is saturating the tape. So if you then sample back the playback, it's got a thousand years' grain on it.”
actually I'd put this as probably the best BOC interview.
haha Well that thing /does/ have a magic eye so you definitely got that right.Helicoid wrote:Ah alas, my theory is debunked. I knew someone more knowledgeable would come along to shoot me down in a blaze of credible sources. Really, good job with that though. I'm not sure why I thought their secret weapon had the magic eye. Oh well, that's my adventure for a day. Back to studying for calculus.
wash wrote:wish i could afford one of these
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