Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:03 pm
SonicDimension wrote:...rather than being another one of these mediocre 'IDM' artists who think making music is like computer hacking or electrical engineering or something. That's just my opinion, though. The important thing is that they stop talking/reading about and collecting toys long enough to produce some decent music.
Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:24 pm
dono wrote:SonicDimension wrote:...rather than being another one of these mediocre 'IDM' artists who think making music is like computer hacking or electrical engineering or something. That's just my opinion, though. The important thing is that they stop talking/reading about and collecting toys long enough to produce some decent music.
Hey hey hey... now...
I am a computer hacker...
And I make plenty of music.
Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:29 pm
Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:07 am
Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:19 pm
Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:27 pm
Shut That Bird Up wrote:Sorry, I know that this is a very old topic, but other than the Roland SH101/MC202, I have just discovered what the 'secret weapon is 100%. Of course nobody on this forum would be interested in finding out what it is, because they would be right in saying that talent is far more important.
And I agree with them.
Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:18 am
Shut That Bird Up wrote:Sorry, I know that this is a very old topic, but other than the Roland SH101/MC202, I have just discovered what the 'secret weapon is 100%. Of course nobody on this forum would be interested in finding out what it is, because they would be right in saying that talent is far more important.
And I agree with them.
Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:44 am
Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:06 pm
Kinski wrote:lol
there is no secret weapon. it's just a combination of clever sampling from tapes (brothers themselves admited they use old 4-tracks and tape players) and good keyboards (like roland sh101) that gives them their sound. it's not like there's an 'instant boc' patch on any organ with italian soundng name. just broken tape players and oversaturated, reverberated melodies.
it's really basic when you think of it.
Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:23 pm
SonicDimension wrote:Shut That Bird Up wrote:Sorry, I know that this is a very old topic, but other than the Roland SH101/MC202, I have just discovered what the 'secret weapon is 100%. Of course nobody on this forum would be interested in finding out what it is, because they would be right in saying that talent is far more important.
And I agree with them.
Someone recently brought up the 'secret weapon' thing in this thread. He said that he thought it might be a Crumar Toccata organ. I think he could be right. It could be the source of many of their mysterious polyphonic timbres.
Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:05 am
Shut That Bird Up wrote:Whilst everyone knows that Kinski is right when it comes to recording concepts , he does mention a Roland Sh101. This synth is instantly recognizable is when it comes to BOC's sound. Now I am sure that you could program different analog monosynth to sound similar, but never the same.
Now I honestly have no interest in making music that sounds like anyone else. In fact I totally totally gave up music as a profession four and a half years ago when a family member became ill. My only interest in this subject is that of a nerd who could hear a reoccurring polysynth going through their early tape recordings to the later releases. I was, until about a week ago totally baffled by what this synth was.
Now about a week ago I was having a chat with this man ,who happens to be a very good friend of mine.
http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2007/10 ... torer.html
As usual we were discussing all things music, when he started waxing lyrical about this truly underrated synth. At the time I thought nothing of it , but the following day it just clicked...
I totally remembered playing one of these in an indie band I was a member of in the early/mid nineties and the thought crossed my mind that maybe this was the "secret weapon". I then listened intently to as many online recordings as I could. Knowing that most online synth stuff is techno based I sifted through until I found 2 that were total dead giveaways. I mean instantly recognizable as a main BOC synth.
Anyway, I picked up one of these yesterday and after a couple of hours programming I totally know that this synth is as much a "secret weapon" as their M202/Sh101.
Sorry, I am not going to post any audio examples, but If anyone is interested in PMing me on their idea of a BOC "secret weapon" and they match up with mine, I promise to send the individual a couple of links showing what I mean. It will then be up to them to spill the beans and if they want and watch the prices of these synths go through the roof.
Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:22 pm
Shut That Bird Up wrote:Kinski wrote:lol
there is no secret weapon. it's just a combination of clever sampling from tapes (brothers themselves admited they use old 4-tracks and tape players) and good keyboards (like roland sh101) that gives them their sound. it's not like there's an 'instant boc' patch on any organ with italian soundng name. just broken tape players and oversaturated, reverberated melodies.
it's really basic when you think of it.
Whilst everyone knows that Kinski is right when it comes to recording concepts , he does mention a Roland Sh101. This synth is instantly recognizable is when it comes to BOC's sound. Now I am sure that you could program different analog monosynth to sound similar, but never the same.
Now I honestly have no interest in making music that sounds like anyone else. In fact I totally totally gave up music as a profession four and a half years ago when a family member became ill. My only interest in this subject is that of a nerd who could hear a reoccurring polysynth going through their early tape recordings to the later releases. I was, until about a week ago totally baffled by what this synth was.
Now about a week ago I was having a chat with this man ,who happens to be a very good friend of mine.
http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2007/10 ... torer.html
As usual we were discussing all things music, when he started waxing lyrical about this truly underrated synth. At the time I thought nothing of it , but the following day it just clicked...
I totally remembered playing one of these in an indie band I was a member of in the early/mid nineties and the thought crossed my mind that maybe this was the "secret weapon". I then listened intently to as many online recordings as I could. Knowing that most online synth stuff is techno based I sifted through until I found 2 that were total dead giveaways. I mean instantly recognizable as a main BOC synth.
Anyway, I picked up one of these yesterday and after a couple of hours programming I totally know that this synth is as much a "secret weapon" as their M202/Sh101.
Sorry, I am not going to post any audio examples, but If anyone is interested in PMing me on their idea of a BOC "secret weapon" and they match up with mine, I promise to send the individual a couple of links showing what I mean. It will then be up to them to spill the beans and if they want and watch the prices of these synths go through the roof.
x
Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:56 pm
polar sky wrote:I don't think their "Secret Weapon" is a synth or any instrument, but actually a recording technique.
Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:29 pm
Shut That Bird Up wrote:spill the beans and if they want and watch the prices of these synths go through the roof.
Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:38 pm
Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:00 pm
BunnyRabbit wrote:
Anyway, I'm sure STBU will share the joy of knowledge soon.
Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:57 pm
Shut That Bird Up wrote:As usual we were discussing all things music, when he started waxing lyrical about this truly underrated synth. At the time I thought nothing of it , but the following day it just clicked...
I totally remembered playing one of these in an indie band I was a member of in the early/mid nineties and the thought crossed my mind that maybe this was the "secret weapon". I then listened intently to as many online recordings as I could. Knowing that most online synth stuff is techno based I sifted through until I found 2 that were total dead giveaways. I mean instantly recognizable as a main BOC synth.
Anyway, I picked up one of these yesterday and after a couple of hours programming I totally know that this synth is as much a "secret weapon" as their M202/Sh101.
Sorry, I am not going to post any audio examples, but If anyone is interested in PMing me on their idea of a BOC "secret weapon" and they match up with mine, I promise to send the individual a couple of links showing what I mean. It will then be up to them to spill the beans and if they want and watch the prices of these synths go through the roof.
Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:28 pm
Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:19 pm
Shut That Bird Up wrote:Hi Polar Sky.
Sorry but for some reason none of my Private messages to you have gone through. I don't know why this is ? I have sent a couple of PM's to another user on this subject and they went through fine.