Old Casettes

[Smokes]

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[zeoevil]

Ive become really interested in the "Old Tunes" series lately. They contain some of the best tracks ive heard in a while, just wish they were available in a higher quality. I hope BoC are still considering that re-release of their early work.

It should be noted that you can run mp3s through programs that can clean them up and make them sound better. For what it is worth I tried it with Hi Scores and found that I actually quite liked the end result. I don't remember what program I used as this was years ago on another computer but it was worth it.

[Quillian]

Ive become really interested in the "Old Tunes" series lately. They contain some of the best tracks ive heard in a while, just wish they were available in a higher quality. I hope BoC are still considering that re-release of their early work.

It should be noted that you can run mp3s through programs that can clean them up and make them sound better. For what it is worth I tried it with Hi Scores and found that I actually quite liked the end result. I don't remember what program I used as this was years ago on another computer but it was worth it.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say Audacity?

I'm not exactly sure what you can do with that as far as cleanup is concerned, the only thing I've done lately was greatly increasing the volume of the "Bradley's Robot" EP by Aphex Twin (seriously, I think that wins the award for "quietest album ever made".)

[zeoevil]

Ive become really interested in the "Old Tunes" series lately. They contain some of the best tracks ive heard in a while, just wish they were available in a higher quality. I hope BoC are still considering that re-release of their early work.

It should be noted that you can run mp3s through programs that can clean them up and make them sound better. For what it is worth I tried it with Hi Scores and found that I actually quite liked the end result. I don't remember what program I used as this was years ago on another computer but it was worth it.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say Audacity?

I'm not exactly sure what you can do with that as far as cleanup is concerned, the only thing I've done lately was greatly increasing the volume of the "Bradley's Robot" EP by Aphex Twin (seriously, I think that wins the award for "quietest album ever made".)

Honestly? I don't think it was that. Whatever I used leveled the volume and removed some of the background noise. In other words it polished it up a little.

[Saakki]

Honestly? I don't think it was that. Whatever I used leveled the volume and removed some of the background noise. In other words it polished it up a little.

I bet it was Cool Edit Pro 2. something or what the Cool Edit Pro is nowadays, Adobe Audition. I still use the 2.1 Cool Edit Pro since it is as good as new Adobe version imo. http://www.adobe.com/special/products/audition/syntrillium.html

[zeoevil]

Honestly? I don't think it was that. Whatever I used leveled the volume and removed some of the background noise. In other words it polished it up a little.

I bet it was Cool Edit Pro 2. something or what the Cool Edit Pro is nowadays, Adobe Audition. I still use the 2.1 Cool Edit Pro since it is as good as new Adobe version imo. http://www.adobe.com/special/products/audition/syntrillium.html

It wasn't even that complicated. It was some trialware program I got off CNet. I haven't worked with music since the nineties. I leave that to the talented.

[Smokes]

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[747Music]

Anybody else notice that "P.C." from AFOT is at the end of the "Invocation" video?

Ya, that's been known since the video came out.

[qualia]

It wasn't even that complicated. It was some trialware program I got off CNet. I haven't worked with music since the nineties. I leave that to the talented.

Just to clear some things up: Audacity and Cool Edit are general audio recording and editing software. They are not software meant to "clean up" audio. Regarding the tape rips, there's nothing you can do to make them sound more like the originals. Maybe better to your ears, but not the way it was originally intended... The only thing that the sleazy shareware will do is take it further away from the original. What we need is a higher quality rip to begin with.

[turquoise70]

It wasn't even that complicated. It was some trialware program I got off CNet. I haven't worked with music since the nineties. I leave that to the talented.

Just to clear some things up: Audacity and Cool Edit are general audio recording and editing software. They are not software meant to "clean up" audio. Regarding the tape rips, there's nothing you can do to make them sound more like the originals. Maybe better to your ears, but not the way it was originally intended... The only thing that the sleazy shareware will do is take it further away from the original. What we need is a higher quality rip to begin with.

i agree with everything except the word "sleazy"

shareware = the language of the plebeians

if plebeians offend you, so be it.

but they are your fellow men.

i am not offended by plebeians and i gladly use their software with many due thanks.

[zeoevil]

It wasn't even that complicated. It was some trialware program I got off CNet. I haven't worked with music since the nineties. I leave that to the talented.

Just to clear some things up: Audacity and Cool Edit are general audio recording and editing software. They are not software meant to "clean up" audio. Regarding the tape rips, there's nothing you can do to make them sound more like the originals. Maybe better to your ears, but not the way it was originally intended... The only thing that the sleazy shareware will do is take it further away from the original. What we need is a higher quality rip to begin with.

I never meant to try to make anything sound more like the originals. My sole intention was to reduce background noise and make what I had sound better. I accomplished that task without spending any money. That is a win as far as I am concerned.

[novayshun]

I'm puzzled why this says "made in england", not "made in scotland".

[The Voice of Reason]

It wasn't even that complicated. It was some trialware program I got off CNet. I haven't worked with music since the nineties. I leave that to the talented.

Just to clear some things up: Audacity and Cool Edit are general audio recording and editing software. They are not software meant to "clean up" audio. Regarding the tape rips, there's nothing you can do to make them sound more like the originals. Maybe better to your ears, but not the way it was originally intended... The only thing that the sleazy shareware will do is take it further away from the original. What we need is a higher quality rip to begin with.

You ever think the originals might sound like tape because thats what they were recorded on to?
Hmmmmmmm.

And you can not compare Audacity to Cool Edit, now known as Audition. Cool Edit is, was, awesome.
And has several great noise reduction alga.

[The Voice of Reason]

I'm puzzled why this says "made in england", not "made in scotland".

Something doesn't quite seem right about that one. The last tab you are refering to looks like its a different color that the rest of the insert.

This one on the BOCPages looks more legit. And it says Made in UK. And it's missing a fold.

Again, Hmmmmmm.

[dealer]

the tape in that photo is not original. it's a copy a friend made for me from the original. she photocopied the insert.

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[Stry Craty Bya]

Can someone explain to me who exactly leaked the 'Random 35 Tracks Tape'? I still don't get it. If all those super old cassette releases (Besides Old Tunes Vol. 1&2) like Acid Memories and Play By Numbers, etc. were only circulated around the band's family and friends, how did this surface on the internet? Wouldn't it have to be someone with some connection to the band's family or friends to obtain that music and post it on the internet?

[zeoevil]

Can someone explain to me who exactly leaked the 'Random 35 Tracks Tape'? I still don't get it. If all those super old cassette releases (Besides Old Tunes Vol. 1&2) like Acid Memories and Play By Numbers, etc. were only circulated around the band's family and friends, how did this surface on the internet? Wouldn't it have to be someone with some connection to the band's family or friends to obtain that music and post it on the internet?

I can only venture a guess and say what I have said before. Random 35 is songs from the old releases like Acid and Numbers put on a tape by someone. I always imagined it was a mixtape someone made that somewhat else encoding and put on the net. No one knows who leaked them. MDG said they were just a mixture. I don't know what else to tell you.

[Ray Manta]

Random 35 Tracks Tape = Old Tunes Vol. 1

My first post here and I dive deeply into an already much debated issue. Please hear my points and let me know your views on the identity of the so called unknown tape.

1st point:

cancas001 - A Few Old Tunes
cancas002 - Old Tunes Vol. 1 ???
cancas003 - Old Tunes Vol. 2

cancas002 is unknown but the above order would make sense since nothing else has turned up and the brothers used different catalogue IDs for different sorts of releases. These being obvious compilations when the much earlier Music70 releases are not.

2nd point:

AFOT has a a segued tracklisting. The "OT1" and OT2 tapes don't.

3rd point:

AFOT shares some tracks with "OT1", but the later does not share any tracks with OT2.

4th point:

The image put on twoism forum that is referred to as being the evidence that AFOT and OT1 would be the same depictures a homemade copy by a fan. The copied cover omits one page that should have been there if it were a copy made by the brothers. Therefore it wouldn't be especially odd if the cassette was, as some have speculated earlier, also misslabeled by that fan.

What's your thoughts on this?

[pianoforte]

Random 35 Tracks Tape = Old Tunes Vol. 1

My first post here and I dive deeply into an already much debated issue. Please hear my points and let me know your views on the identity of the so called unknown tape.

1st point:

cancas001 - A Few Old Tunes
cancas002 - Old Tunes Vol. 1 ???
cancas003 - Old Tunes Vol. 2

cancas002 is unknown but the above order would make sense since nothing else has turned up and the brothers used different catalogue IDs for different sorts of releases. These being obvious compilations when the much earlier Music70 releases are not.

2nd point:

AFOT has a a segued tracklisting. The "OT1" and OT2 tapes don't.

3rd point:

AFOT shares some tracks with "OT1", but the later does not share any tracks with OT2.

4th point:

The image put on twoism forum that is referred to as being the evidence that AFOT and OT1 would be the same depictures a homemade copy by a fan. The copied cover omits one page that should have been there if it were a copy made by the brothers. Therefore it wouldn't be especially odd if the cassette was, as some have speculated earlier, also misslabeled by that fan.

What's your thoughts on this?

I'm too tired to comprehend this right now. I'll take a look on the weekend. Until then, Welcome to the ___twoism forums!

[Seriously]

One day I hope the brothers will release a bocset with everything they want me to hear.

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