Old Tunes and BOC Maxima cassettes for sale on ebay

[Ciaranarchy]

Some complete lunatics post here.

Boards of Canada aren't sacred. They are just a band. These tapes aren't the Arc of the Covenant. They're just a few cassettes.

All this "the Brothers" shit is absolutely wacko. The guys in BoC might be interested in cults, but I don't think they ever intended to start one with themselves as central figures.

No doubt they weren't best pleased when the material initially leaked, but that's because what we see as pretty good tunes they see as embarrassing juvenilia.

This is a different story. No tunes are leaking. Blushes are spared. Just one set of tapes changing hands.

It's, frankly, embarrassing how many people here are fanatically defensive of a pair of strangers who they have never met, and who, chances are, don't give a fuck anyway.

[Opothecary]

Some complete lunatics post here.

Boards of Canada aren't sacred. They are just a band. These tapes aren't the Arc of the Covenant. They're just a few cassettes.

All this "the Brothers" shit is absolutely wacko. The guys in BoC might be interested in cults, but I don't think they ever intended to start one with themselves as central figures.

No doubt they weren't best pleased when the material initially leaked, but that's because what we see as pretty good tunes they see as embarrassing juvenilia.

This is a different story. No tunes are leaking. Blushes are spared. Just one set of tapes changing hands.

It's, frankly, embarrassing how many people here are fanatically defensive of a pair of strangers who they have never met, and who, chances are, don't give a fuck anyway.

You've been here an entire month, and on your 11th post, you've managed to set us all straight! We'd be lost without your opinion.

[Ciaranarchy]

You've been here an entire month, and on your 11th post, you've managed to set us all straight! We'd be lost without your opinion.

Hahah. I thought this was an open discussion forum, not the army. What rank do I need to achieve before I can freely state my opinion, sir?

[apriorion]

Some people are dying right now because of easily preventable diseases, starvation, etc. At this moment, there are a lot of people with disposable income who could easily send their money to reputable organizations to prevent these horrible deaths. If that's true, then it is immoral for anyone to ever spend $500 dollars on a cassette tape. That was all I meant by my first post in this thread, before my point was distracted by someone who seems incapable of understanding what I write.

My argument is not new: it's a specific application of Peter Singer's famous line of argument: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/19990905mag-poverty-singer.html

Here, watch this NFB interview snippet with him, if you aren't in the mood to read: http://youtu.be/ZrnzMpgISgo

I don't worship "the brothers". I just have general outrage toward immoral spending.

[Aerial Boundaries]

You've been here an entire month, and on your 11th post, you've managed to set us all straight! We'd be lost without your opinion.

Hahah. I thought this was an open discussion forum, not the army. What rank do I need to achieve before I can freely state my opinion, sir?

He isn't telling you to stop talking, he is rebuking your comment. He has just as much right to do that as you do.

In regards to Twoism being a cult: There are a couple of people in this thread being genuinely over-invested in what people do with these tapes. That is a vocal minority, you can't extrapolate that to the entire population of this forum.

I have been here about as long as you, and as far as I can see this place is mainly full of intelligent, balanced and rational people. You are being unfairly critical in my eyes, and a bit immature.

@apriorion Nice name btw

[apriorion]

@apriorion Nice name btw

thanks

[GH]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVO0DD8qdbc

[AFX.NL]

Some complete lunatics post here.

Boards of Canada aren't sacred. They are just a band. These tapes aren't the Arc of the Covenant. They're just a few cassettes.

All this "the Brothers" shit is absolutely wacko. The guys in BoC might be interested in cults, but I don't think they ever intended to start one with themselves as central figures.

No doubt they weren't best pleased when the material initially leaked, but that's because what we see as pretty good tunes they see as embarrassing juvenilia.

This is a different story. No tunes are leaking. Blushes are spared. Just one set of tapes changing hands.

It's, frankly, embarrassing how many people here are fanatically defensive of a pair of strangers who they have never met, and who, chances are, don't give a fuck anyway.

In a less hard way I have to agree with this post.

[paul]

Some people are dying right now because of easily preventable diseases, starvation, etc. At this moment, there are a lot of people with disposable income who could easily send their money to reputable organizations to prevent these horrible deaths. If that's true, then it is immoral for anyone to ever spend $500 dollars on a cassette tape. That was all I meant by my first post in this thread, before my point was distracted by someone who seems incapable of understanding what I write.

My argument is not new: it's a specific application of Peter Singer's famous line of argument: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/19990905mag-poverty-singer.html

Here, watch this NFB interview snippet with him, if you aren't in the mood to read: http://youtu.be/ZrnzMpgISgo

I don't worship "the brothers". I just have general outrage toward immoral spending.

godammit ... why did you do that? every time i read Peter Singer (he had the single greatest impact on my life about 20 years ago), i realize how much more i can be doing. i was planning to buy an old turntable this weekend and get into vinyl. might have to wait. i'm off to make a donation to UNICEF. thanks for the reminder apriorion ... does put things into perspective.

[Ciaranarchy]

He isn't telling you to stop talking, he is rebuking your comment. He has just as much right to do that as you do.

And I have the right to rebuke his comment. And so on.

I have been here about as long as you, and as far as I can see this place is mainly full of intelligent, balanced and rational people.

I think maybe you've misunderstood me. I completely agree with you. That's why I said "some lunatics post here", not "everyone here, without exception, is a lunatic."

I lurked this forum for many years before I felt moved to post anything. I really like it. That's why I'm here.

My post was addressed to certain people and not the board as a whole.

[apriorion]

Some people are dying right now because of easily preventable diseases, starvation, etc. At this moment, there are a lot of people with disposable income who could easily send their money to reputable organizations to prevent these horrible deaths. If that's true, then it is immoral for anyone to ever spend $500 dollars on a cassette tape. That was all I meant by my first post in this thread, before my point was distracted by someone who seems incapable of understanding what I write.

My argument is not new: it's a specific application of Peter Singer's famous line of argument: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/19990905mag-poverty-singer.html

Here, watch this NFB interview snippet with him, if you aren't in the mood to read: http://youtu.be/ZrnzMpgISgo

I don't worship "the brothers". I just have general outrage toward immoral spending.

godammit ... why did you do that? every time i read Peter Singer (he had the single greatest impact on my life about 20 years ago), i realize how much more i can be doing. i was planning to buy an old turntable this weekend and get into vinyl. might have to wait. i'm off to make a donation to UNICEF. thanks for the reminder apriorion ... does put things into perspective.

Sorry, man. Not trying to ruin anyone's day--only pointing out how some purchases are not just pragmatically unwise, but have moral weight, as well.

[thedisavowed]

I don't understand the philosophy here:

It is morally acceptable to have illegally downloaded and enjoyed bootleg recordings of the pre-twoism tunes

HOWEVER it is offensive for someone who owns a legitimate copy to sell their copy at a profit?

Guys this is bizarre. If BoC wants to make money off the old tunes then they know what to do - sell it. Supply will exceed demand prices will drop and the money will go into the 'right' coffers.

This is all commerce and seems totally legit to me

[paul]

Some people are dying right now because of easily preventable diseases, starvation, etc. At this moment, there are a lot of people with disposable income who could easily send their money to reputable organizations to prevent these horrible deaths. If that's true, then it is immoral for anyone to ever spend $500 dollars on a cassette tape. That was all I meant by my first post in this thread, before my point was distracted by someone who seems incapable of understanding what I write.

My argument is not new: it's a specific application of Peter Singer's famous line of argument: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/19990905mag-poverty-singer.html

Here, watch this NFB interview snippet with him, if you aren't in the mood to read: http://youtu.be/ZrnzMpgISgo

I don't worship "the brothers". I just have general outrage toward immoral spending.

godammit ... why did you do that? every time i read Peter Singer (he had the single greatest impact on my life about 20 years ago), i realize how much more i can be doing. i was planning to buy an old turntable this weekend and get into vinyl. might have to wait. i'm off to make a donation to UNICEF. thanks for the reminder apriorion ... does put things into perspective.

Sorry, man. Not trying to ruin anyone's day--only pointing out how some purchases are not just pragmatically unwise, but have moral weight, as well.

right on - i actually need to lift the film from time to time. its appreciated for sure.

[Iced Cooly Beatnik]

I don't understand the philosophy here:

It is morally acceptable to have illegally downloaded and enjoyed bootleg recordings of the pre-twoism tunes

HOWEVER it is offensive for someone who owns a legitimate copy to sell their copy at a profit?

Guys this is bizarre. If BoC wants to make money off the old tunes then they know what to do - sell it. Supply will exceed demand prices will drop and the money will go into the 'right' coffers.

This is all commerce and seems totally legit to me

Yeah, this just reminds me of the BoC vinyls that go on sale for high prices. Only thing is, they were sold through general retail, whereas these were not.
I'm fairly certain this doesn't break any copyright laws, but starting prices of £99 are pretty ridiculous. It reminds me, there's a set of early Radiohead tapes (as On A Friday) that are selling for $49,999, that I doubt will ever be sold.

[Alzado]

so much hypocrisy here.

it's 100% legal to sell these tapes. what is illegal though is trading ripped bootlegs. so this really comes down to mass jealousy.

[Opothecary]

so much hypocrisy here.

it's 100% legal to sell these tapes. what is illegal though is trading ripped bootlegs. so this really comes down to mass jealousy.

Mass jealousy? That could be the way you're projecting it. I don't have the collector mentality that some people on WATMM might have. I'm not that sentimental about tactile things, having these cassettes really wouldn't mean much to me. I'd pay at most maybe 20 or 30 bucks for one of them as a simple memento (if they were more prevalent and they really didn't care) and I'd certainly never get into a bidding war over one, but the overriding issue to me is if you are specifically a fan of BoC (as opposed to an IDM fan in general) you know their past wishes regarding these releases. I could see if you are an IDM fan first rather than a "BoC fan", being concerned about an individual artist's wishes for their work could elicit indifference or it may just seem bizarre to care.

I think the fact that I'm NOT a collector makes it easier for me to do the right thing. I've got everything they've officially released on CD, some stickers that came with preorders over the years, and the Alpha and Omega promo vinyl, that's about it.

I have a clean conscience about having the unreleased music in my possession since they seem to happily provide links to fan videos utilizing this material. I would definitely go as far as buying an annual archival release from them or a boxset, however they want to get this stuff to me at some point in the future.

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[wwbjd]

By my calculation, since the RSD vinyl went for $5700, these should sell for around $1,923,750 each.

My math may be a bit off.

Regardless I'm buying all three and will not buy anything else for the rest of my life (except maybe a tape player).

[thepastinsidepressant]

so much hypocrisy here.

it's 100% legal to sell these tapes. what is illegal though is trading ripped bootlegs. so this really comes down to mass jealousy.

so since you spent the past hour foraging, you can now take a rest back over on watmm's ledge. good bird. oh and... safe flight home!

[Alzado]

[Opothecary]

Sorry, you've been away at WATMM for too long, being jaded about BoC fandom doesn't work on an actual BoC forum.