Is There Any Reason To Believe That BoC Are Still A Thing?

[dp]

I've totally lost faith in BoC and don't give a shit anymore. I've no idea if they are working on a new album or if they dead. MDG seems to think that something is in the works and a lot of people on here take his words as gospel, but I have doubts about his credibility.

If a new album comes this year or next year or next next year I'll be the one of the first motherfuckers to buy it. With that being said, I'm through with waiting and being patient and caring. BoC don't care about us so why should we care about them?

[Lens Larque]

Plaid Scintilli is really good!

[Julian Candy]

yep

[mechanismj]

2 pages! Impressive!

[Alzado]

i was banned.

just because it may have been discussed before doesn't invalidate the fact that, especially as each year (decade?) passes, BOC don't seem interested in giving the people that have been extremely loyal to them even the slightest bit of information.

now people will reply with things like "they don't owe us anything" and the like. true of course. they don't have to tell us anything. but it would be the decent thing to do. it would take little effort on their part and be extremely gratifying to the hundreds of people who care enough to check this web site and others from time to time. so while they don't owe us a thing, I don't understand the argument for keeping us in the dark. even one of their cryptic messages would keep us chewing on it for months. everybody knows that. so it seems like if they gave even a fraction of a shit, they would offer even the smallest bit of news.

everybody seems to have adopted this policy of politeness about them. it's like if we all jump on anybody who dares to ask what the deal is, they'll notice us having the right attitude or something. they're entitled to be silent if they choose. but we're entitled to ask too. I don't think people should be belittled for wondering what happened to their favorite artists. it's not unreasonable. I can't think of another band or artist who handles things the way they do.

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[Vexille]

I don't see why the fact that I'm wondering about the status of a band means that I don't listen to any other music. Of course I do. Yet, I still wonder what is up with them. Don't you?

And I've been patient. Everyone has. I think after six years it's fair to ask for an update.

I think so too but good luck with that one.

I can be more accepting of the silent treatment when bands have broken up or have stated they are done. But this? If it weren't for this forum BoC would be completely off my radar by now. And if/when a new release finally came I probably would not even noticed it.

[Fredd-E]

even one of their cryptic messages would keep us chewing on it for months. everybody knows that. so it seems like if they gave even a fraction of a shit, they would offer even the smallest bit of news.

everybody seems to have adopted this policy of politeness about them. it's like if we all jump on anybody who dares to ask what the deal is, they'll notice us having the right attitude or something. they're entitled to be silent if they choose. but we're entitled to ask too. I don't think people should be belittled for wondering what happened to their favorite artists. it's not unreasonable. I can't think of another band or artist who handles things the way they do.

You're just ignorant of the things "they" have let loose the last months/years. It's your problem you don't believe those statements. Don't make it their attitude problem.

Have you forgotten about:
Mypsace: 'in the studio' updates
MDG: various statements he made throughout the years
And their activity on their Facebook and YouTube pages.

All small tidbits to indicate they are not dead. Wake up.

[polar sky]

even one of their cryptic messages would keep us chewing on it for months. everybody knows that. so it seems like if they gave even a fraction of a shit, they would offer even the smallest bit of news.

everybody seems to have adopted this policy of politeness about them. it's like if we all jump on anybody who dares to ask what the deal is, they'll notice us having the right attitude or something. they're entitled to be silent if they choose. but we're entitled to ask too. I don't think people should be belittled for wondering what happened to their favorite artists. it's not unreasonable. I can't think of another band or artist who handles things the way they do.

You're just ignorant of the things "they" have let loose the last months/years. It's your problem you don't believe those statements. Don't make it their attitude problem.

Have you forgotten about:
Mypsace: 'in the studio' updates
MDG: various statements he made throughout the years
And their activity on their Facebook and YouTube pages.

All small tidbits to indicate they are not dead. Wake up.

Exactly. I am taking their long "Break" in releasing new material as a sign that they're in the studio working on the perfect album. They take their time with albums. From what they have said in interviews, aging their tunes and processing them the way that they do takes a while. It's not like they're using fruity loops, pumping out shit albums every 6 months. They write tons and tons of songs for an album and more than half of em, like the ones they wrote during Geogaddi don't even make it. I would suggest that they are working on piecing the right songs together out of a massive amount of new material.

Or maybe they are remastering their back catalog for us? (I know highly unlikely) That would take a looooooooooong time for them. (Again just a theory and a loose one).

Fine Wine takes time... And I'll gladly wait it out. If it's taking this long, it's going to be amazing.

[Vexille]

even one of their cryptic messages would keep us chewing on it for months. everybody knows that. so it seems like if they gave even a fraction of a shit, they would offer even the smallest bit of news.

everybody seems to have adopted this policy of politeness about them. it's like if we all jump on anybody who dares to ask what the deal is, they'll notice us having the right attitude or something. they're entitled to be silent if they choose. but we're entitled to ask too. I don't think people should be belittled for wondering what happened to their favorite artists. it's not unreasonable. I can't think of another band or artist who handles things the way they do.

You're just ignorant of the things "they" have let loose the last months/years. It's your problem you don't believe those statements. Don't make it their attitude problem.

Have you forgotten about:
Mypsace: 'in the studio' updates
MDG: various statements he made throughout the years
And their activity on their Facebook and YouTube pages.

All small tidbits to indicate they are not dead. Wake up.

Those updates feel more like they are stringing me along than telling me useful information. Which is why I've never been one to care too much about those subtle hints.

[YELLOW]

even one of their cryptic messages would keep us chewing on it for months. everybody knows that. so it seems like if they gave even a fraction of a shit, they would offer even the smallest bit of news.

everybody seems to have adopted this policy of politeness about them. it's like if we all jump on anybody who dares to ask what the deal is, they'll notice us having the right attitude or something. they're entitled to be silent if they choose. but we're entitled to ask too. I don't think people should be belittled for wondering what happened to their favorite artists. it's not unreasonable. I can't think of another band or artist who handles things the way they do.

You're just ignorant of the things "they" have let loose the last months/years. It's your problem you don't believe those statements. Don't make it their attitude problem.

Have you forgotten about:
Mypsace: 'in the studio' updates
MDG: various statements he made throughout the years
And their activity on their Facebook and YouTube pages.

All small tidbits to indicate they are not dead. Wake up.

Exactly. I am taking their long "Break" in releasing new material as a sign that they're in the studio working on the perfect album. They take their time with albums. From what they have said in interviews, aging their tunes and processing them the way that they do takes a while. It's not like they're using fruity loops, pumping out shit albums every 6 months. They write tons and tons of songs for an album and more than half of em, like the ones they wrote during Geogaddi don't even make it. I would suggest that they are working on piecing the right songs together out of a massive amount of new material.

Or maybe they are remastering their back catalog for us? (I know highly unlikely) That would take a looooooooooong time for them. (Again just a theory and a loose one).

Fine Wine takes time... And I'll gladly wait it out. If it's taking this long, it's going to be amazing.

Well put, and I agree. Not only do they usually take longer breaks in between releases, but to me it seems like since The Campfire Headphase, they have taken a personal break to live their lives and be with family.

[Waterbagel]

wasn't this the way things were like a few decades ago? (talking 60's-80's here). some lesser-known artists would go a couple/few/even 10 years without saying anything and suddenly release an album. not that i'm suggesting BoC is trying to follow that notion, but it's just the way things were done and they don't have to let us know about anything

nor do i feel like it would be decent of them to do it. i'd LIKE for them to, but i don't think any less of them if they don't

[Alzado]

"the new album has been held up over the past year by one or two issues outwith the band's control, but it is finally coming out in 2010."

most of those statements by MDG are now years old themselves. he made it sound like 2009 was going to be the year. then 2010. then 2011 was definitely going to be it. now he barely says anything any more.

fredd-e you can rush to their defense all you like. i'm sure it helps you and your web site look more reliable and close to the source. but the fact remains that they have not communicated. that's the only thing we can be certain of. everything else is just "pub talk."

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[Alzado]

wasn't this the way things were like a few decades ago? (talking 60's-80's here). some lesser-known artists would go a couple/few/even 10 years without saying anything and suddenly release an album. not that i'm suggesting BoC is trying to follow that notion, but it's just the way things were done and they don't have to let us know about anything

nor do i feel like it would be decent of them to do it. i'd LIKE for them to, but i don't think any less of them if they don't

no. bands had publicists and touring schedules and the like.

[sexagon hun]

Wake up.

Fredd you are the best dude here, and maybe the #1 fan of anyone in the world, but you yourself said years ago back in 2010 that you were 100% certain a new album would drop, then mdg said it would happen in 2010 as well. These hints have made us delusional. I hope we get a double album but I at this point dont see them releasing anything anytime soon (or this year for that matter)

[Alzado]

and Fredd e your response in this thread is a prime example of what I'm talking about. you're like a religious fundamentalist. when somebody has the nerve to question the state of things, you get all up in arms about it like it's some sort of personal attack against you.

like i said before, the decent thing for them to do would be to say something. anything. there is no good argument for keeping silent for so long. i'm not even talking about the delay between releases. i'm talking about the total lack of communication. there's no reason for it.

[Fredd-E]

1) fredd-e you can rush to their defense all you like. i'm sure it helps you and your web site look more reliable and close to the source.

2) but the fact remains that they have not communicated. that's the only thing we can be certain of. everything else is just "pub talk."

1) As if that's the reason I'm putting myself in a defensive stance? I just think people have been a bit too harsh versus MDG. Must also be one of the reason's why he's been more silent than in the past. Would you be fond of visiting a place where everytime you drop a little bit of info you get shot down or be frowned upon.

2) It depends on your definition of communication. In my opinion changing status on social media sites (myspace, facebook, youtube) is a form of communication. A way of them to show they're still alive.

[Fredd-E]

Wake up.

Fredd you are the best dude here, and maybe the #1 fan of anyone in the world, but you yourself said years ago back in 2010 that you were 100% certain a new album would drop, then mdg said it would happen in 2010 as well. These hints have made us delusional. I hope we get a double album but I at this point dont see them releasing anything anytime soon (or this year for that matter)

I'm definitely not the best and not the #1 fan either. I don't recall having said I'm 100% certain. No-one can be 100% certain. Not even BoC themselves. And if I did in fact state 100% it's because of MDG his quotes. And not even he can always be right. I feel pity for him having told us those tidbits of info he was allowed to share which turned out to be false, outwith his control as well, and now he's received a smack in the face for it. That just doesn't feel right.

[Fredd-E]

and Fredd e your response in this thread is a prime example of what I'm talking about. you're like a religious fundamentalist. when somebody has the nerve to question the state of things, you get all up in arms about it like it's some sort of personal attack against you.

like i said before, the decent thing for them to do would be to say something. anything. there is no good argument for keeping silent for so long. i'm not even talking about the delay between releases. i'm talking about the total lack of communication. there's no reason for it.

Man it's because of the ignorance some of you portray that one might become a fundamentalist spontaneously! Why do you keep on ignoring the fact they DID IN FACT communicate?

Did you expect a personal phone call from them saluting you and giving you all the info you desperately need? They've given you instead the small signs of life on their social sites and they've given you MDG. And to be honest with you I can't think of another band that's having this kind of communication with their fans. I don't see RDJ or AE having this kind of information sharing on internet fora! But we have the luxury of having MDG as a moderator over here and WATMM. Be grateful for once.

[Alzado]

i think most of us are grateful when MDG speaks. we just wish he'd do it more often. and his most recent posts haven't contained any news at all.


also, i don't think we have any reason to believe that they use their social media accounts or are directly responsible for anything that gets posted there. MDG makes it sound like they commandeered those accounts to fend off squatters but don't actually value them:

The guys have very little interest in using sites like these, but they will be used by music70/warp for news announcements etc when needed.

so anyone notion that the guys are telling us they are in the studio is dubious at best.

[Fredd-E]

so anyone notion that the guys are telling us they are in the studio is dubious at best.

It's only dubious when their personal friends (who are doing all these things for them) are fraudulent friends. And I don't think they'd 'delegate' such tasks to faux friends. I'm pretty sure the people who are maintaining the "internet related sites" are honest friends belonging to the hex sun collective. MDG being one of them.