He was more talking about the other Old Tunes leaks there I would think.
(Not that he, over even BoC themselves, would keep with what leak is what and what came from where etc...)
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qukk_ wrote:Didn't Sean Booth say something about how the brothers "cut off ties" after r35tt leaked?
niski wrote:qukk_ wrote:Didn't Sean Booth say something about how the brothers "cut off ties" after r35tt leaked?
i think it was old tunes, not r35tt
i don't think there ever was really that much official word from boc themselves on r35tt, just mdg calling it a mystery and a mixture.
qukk_ wrote:niski wrote:qukk_ wrote:Didn't Sean Booth say something about how the brothers "cut off ties" after r35tt leaked?
i think it was old tunes, not r35tt
i don't think there ever was really that much official word from boc themselves on r35tt, just mdg calling it a mystery and a mixture.
Okay, I remember someone quoting Booth here on the discussion of r35tt. Boc did like a video featuring A12, if that can be interpreted as acknowledgment.
bakedsodium wrote:Pardon me if this is painfully obvious and I'm somehow missing it, but does anyone know where the R35TT came from?
Who ripped it?
outhudd wrote:bakedsodium wrote:Pardon me if this is painfully obvious and I'm somehow missing it, but does anyone know where the R35TT came from?
Who ripped it?
I don't think it's even confirmed whether or not R35TT ever actually existed as a tape.
crono000 wrote:outhudd wrote:bakedsodium wrote:Pardon me if this is painfully obvious and I'm somehow missing it, but does anyone know where the R35TT came from?
Who ripped it?
I don't think it's even confirmed whether or not R35TT ever actually existed as a tape.
Didn't one of WATMM admins (Joyrex?) claim that they own a cassette of it? Also there's a difference in fidelity between the two sides, hence kind of confirming the tape nature of this record.
outhudd wrote:bakedsodium wrote:Pardon me if this is painfully obvious and I'm somehow missing it, but does anyone know where the R35TT came from?
Who ripped it?
I don't think it's even confirmed whether or not R35TT ever actually existed as a tape.
The alternative is that someone compiled it digitally from other tape rips that they had, and the track ordering and mixing was all done on computer around 2003/4 using the digital files they had. I remember the crossfading between tracks reminded me of what you could get from one of the Winamp Crossfade plugins at the time.
Just a possibility.
Joyrex is probably lying about that. If he did have it, it's a bit strange how he seemingly never bothered to upload pictures of it, no less rip it from a decent tape deck.
Flory wrote:I personally suspect that R35 was available in some VERY closed off private circle on the internet and the reason it got leaked in so many different ways is that various users from that private circle eventually uploaded their copies. There is the common 320kbps copy that has digital NR done to it and then there is the "Unreleased tracks" copy which is a collection of certain B side tracks in higher fidelity without the digital NR. What I suspect happened was that certain users encoded and modified the original audio files to their liking. One downloaded the whole tape but added NR to it at 320kbps. Another kept just a few B side tracks and encoded it at a lower bit rate without adding digital NR. I even remember finding a rare copy of R35 on the old Soulseek client in which there was an extra five to ten seconds at the begging before the tape even began to play. This means that the original rip was lost to time and the copies that leaked are modified and slightly cut down versions of the original un edited rip. But this is just my opinion. And before anyone asks I can't really provide a copy of that rip since it was on a hard drive that failed a year ago. It's not really that significant. It has the same NR as the 320kbps version has but without the fades at the begging and end of each side from what I remember.
niski wrote:Flory wrote:I personally suspect that R35 was available in some VERY closed off private circle on the internet and the reason it got leaked in so many different ways is that various users from that private circle eventually uploaded their copies. There is the common 320kbps copy that has digital NR done to it and then there is the "Unreleased tracks" copy which is a collection of certain B side tracks in higher fidelity without the digital NR. What I suspect happened was that certain users encoded and modified the original audio files to their liking. One downloaded the whole tape but added NR to it at 320kbps. Another kept just a few B side tracks and encoded it at a lower bit rate without adding digital NR. I even remember finding a rare copy of R35 on the old Soulseek client in which there was an extra five to ten seconds at the begging before the tape even began to play. This means that the original rip was lost to time and the copies that leaked are modified and slightly cut down versions of the original un edited rip. But this is just my opinion. And before anyone asks I can't really provide a copy of that rip since it was on a hard drive that failed a year ago. It's not really that significant. It has the same NR as the 320kbps version has but without the fades at the begging and end of each side from what I remember.
yep this seems to be mostly correct. i assume you meant "unreleased materials" with that other thing tho and it is very strange, NRed A side but no NR on B side. 192kbps "rare cassette tracks" is separate from both too and contains B02-B12.
the tape has its first findable mentions either in march of 2001 or january of 2000 (it is not directly mentioned, but mentions a 35 track tape with old tracks, which is why the ambiguity)
i did receive unconfirmed info (but backed up with a screenshot of the original NRed files) that this tape originally leaked in the late 90s on a private password-protected hotline server, could have smth to do with it
cstalin wrote:Flory... around 2001 right before Geogaddi got leaked there was an argument on a old forum which was frequented by a lot of people involved with that scene about BOC older material not being real (Aka the Cosmic Crofter stuff). Some one in the forum then leaked 2 tracks that were uploaded in RealAudio format. (This is really early days of streaming stuff. Like Limewire didnt even exist yet). Im pretty sure the dude leaked on first and then no one beleaved him then a 2nd track was added and said he was gonna release the rest. Shit hit the fan since lot of people like UZiq and pretty sure Cosmic Crofter too were basically freaking out about it and the rest didnt get leaked till years later. The reason that file sounds sooo bad and such a low quality cause the RA its based on is really really bad quality.
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