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Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 3:25 pm
by pilot12
writetomhatcher wrote:
Also, that distorted synth at 1:02...anyone getting that Cold Earth crashing synth (at 1:54 of Cold Earth) vibe? There's no delay on it, but they use the synth in the same way, as it crashes into the track. "Dreamin like a prostitute" BA DA BA DING DA BA ("yeah, that's right!"). After all they did say they spent like $10k on that synth, and it only made that 1 second moment in Cold Earth!


Great observation! I never noticed that before.
Now that I hear it it really does sound like something "crashing". Really makes you appreciate how much detail they put into their work, doesn't it?


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Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:45 pm
by Biznasty
Wildfire wrote:
Biznasty wrote:
Wildfire wrote:Really trying to enjoy this but I just can't. Bland and uninspiring. I think I preferred the mystery of radio silence.

Go listen to Magic Window then, fucker.


Wow, why the animosity? I was just speaking my mind. I'm a diehard BOC fan, bought the original Hi Scores EP on the day of release in 1996 and haven't looked back since. But that doesn't mean I can't not like some of their stuff. Chill on the aggressiveness.

I was kidding with my actual response there but I thought it was a bit harsh to say that you preferred them not releasing anything... Like it's one thing to say you don't like it but to say you'd rather them not post anything... Ouch.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:03 pm
by Echelon
The best thing about all these Nevermen remixes is it made me look into Mike Patton. Bought all the classic Bungle albums and his first with Faith No More. Can't wait to hear them!

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:26 pm
by NTFMTS
Anyone else get strong Aquarius vibes from this remix?

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:57 pm
by Biznasty
NTFMTS wrote:Anyone else get strong Aquarius vibes from this remix?

oh absolutely! that's the first thing i thought of when i heard it.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:23 am
by NTFMTS
It totally has the same vibe. Also @ the people on reddit complaining about the remix being creepy... BoC are genuinely creepy all the time. MHTRTC is nightmarish all the way through, esp the title! Even TCH, with it being a bit more dream-like, almost all of the melodies are still pretty depressing and dark.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:25 am
by Echelon
NTFMTS wrote:It totally has the same vibe. Also @ the people on reddit complaining about the remix being creepy... BoC are genuinely creepy all the time. MHTRTC is nightmarish all the way through, esp the title! Even TCH, with it being a bit more dream-like, almost all of the melodies are still pretty depressing and dark.


I hope those people realize that it's not their lyrics. BOC's instrumentation provides the commentary to the Nevermen's lyrics.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:52 am
by Sherbet Head
Echelon wrote:The best thing about all these Nevermen remixes is it made me look into Mike Patton. Bought all the classic Bungle albums and his first with Faith No More. Can't wait to hear them!


His first effort with FNM is ok, but the magic really starts from the following album onwards.

IIRC, The Real Thing had already been written prior to Patton joining - he simply turned up to do the vocals. Angel Dust was their first real collaboration and it's generally regarded to be their best album... and I'm inclined to agree. :D

The Bungle discography is all over the place. It's mostly brilliant though!

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:14 pm
by Wildfire
Biznasty wrote:I was kidding with my actual response there but I thought it was a bit harsh to say that you preferred them not releasing anything... Like it's one thing to say you don't like it but to say you'd rather them not post anything... Ouch.



I'd rather have an empty bucket than a bucket with a turd in it. (also partially kidding).

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:34 pm
by Biznasty
Wildfire wrote:
Biznasty wrote:I was kidding with my actual response there but I thought it was a bit harsh to say that you preferred them not releasing anything... Like it's one thing to say you don't like it but to say you'd rather them not post anything... Ouch.



I'd rather have an empty bucket than a bucket with a turd in it. (also partially kidding).

At least a turd could be used as fertilizer... You can't do anything with an empty bucket! :wink:

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:33 pm
by Echelon
Sherbet Head wrote:
Echelon wrote:The best thing about all these Nevermen remixes is it made me look into Mike Patton. Bought all the classic Bungle albums and his first with Faith No More. Can't wait to hear them!


His first effort with FNM is ok, but the magic really starts from the following album onwards.

IIRC, The Real Thing had already been written prior to Patton joining - he simply turned up to do the vocals. Angel Dust was their first real collaboration and it's generally regarded to be their best album... and I'm inclined to agree. :D

The Bungle discography is all over the place. It's mostly brilliant though!


Based on this comment, I decided to pick up Angel Dust and King For A Day too. Patton is one of the few corners of art-rock that I haven't explored so I'm excited

If he's BOC endorsed, that makes him all the better to hear!

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:59 am
by Sherbet Head
Echelon wrote:
Sherbet Head wrote:
Echelon wrote:The best thing about all these Nevermen remixes is it made me look into Mike Patton. Bought all the classic Bungle albums and his first with Faith No More. Can't wait to hear them!


His first effort with FNM is ok, but the magic really starts from the following album onwards.

IIRC, The Real Thing had already been written prior to Patton joining - he simply turned up to do the vocals. Angel Dust was their first real collaboration and it's generally regarded to be their best album... and I'm inclined to agree. :D

The Bungle discography is all over the place. It's mostly brilliant though!


Based on this comment, I decided to pick up Angel Dust and King For A Day too. Patton is one of the few corners of art-rock that I haven't explored so I'm excited

If he's BOC endorsed, that makes him all the better to hear!


Strong move, my dude!

KFAD is my second favourite. It doesn't quite have the experimentation of Angel Dust, but it's still a solid, hard-hitting record.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:09 pm
by Echelon
Sherbet Head wrote:Strong move, my dude!

KFAD is my second favourite. It doesn't quite have the experimentation of Angel Dust, but it's still a solid, hard-hitting record.


I figured those three FNM albums and the three major label Bungles are the best overview of the 90s Patton.

Got Disco Valante today, so excited for my first Patton experience! Apparently one of the crown jewels in his legend!

On topic, I have a question. Does anyone believe the theory that we're treating BOC like prostitutes and this was their statement about that? Like this was a quick cash grab?

I love the song, but the 100 bucks on the turquoise bathroom floor tiles makes me curious what you people think.

To be fair, if this was to finance their future album, I'm all for it.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:26 pm
by writetomhatcher
That’s more of a complaint than a theory. Considering Nevermen wrote and recorded the lyrics, and considering the hook is “dreamin like a prostitute,” I don’t think BOC are saying anything to that effect.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:34 pm
by Echelon
writetomhatcher wrote:That’s more of a complaint than a theory. Considering Nevermen wrote and recorded the lyrics, and considering the hook is “dreamin like a prostitute,” I don’t think BOC are saying anything to that effect.



Haha it ain't my theory. But some people claim it's phoned in or they did it for cash.

Personally, I love the song from the instant I heard it so none of this applies to me. And lastly, BOC are kind of control freaks with their quality and legacy so I doubt they'd put out a track purely for cash.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:06 pm
by SamuraiDrifter
Echelon wrote:On topic, I have a question. Does anyone believe the theory that we're treating BOC like prostitutes and this was their statement about that? Like this was a quick cash grab?

I love the song, but the 100 bucks on the turquoise bathroom floor tiles makes me curious what you people think.

To be fair, if this was to finance their future album, I'm all for it.

I don't buy it for a second.

If BoC wanted to make a "quick cash grab" (have they literally ever been known to do that?) a remix is possibly the worst way to do it. They're sitting on literally hundreds of unreleased tracks.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:28 pm
by writetomhatcher
Both good points. There are better ways for them to make/raise money. I’d say anyone calling the remix a cash grab within the week of it coming out probably haven’t approached the track with any seriousness.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:44 pm
by NTFMTS
I just gotta say the distinct BoC reverb they put on the vocal hook is ear candy. It has this old 70s plate reverb sound that is perfect

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:32 am
by Wildfire
Biznasty wrote:
Wildfire wrote:
Biznasty wrote:I was kidding with my actual response there but I thought it was a bit harsh to say that you preferred them not releasing anything... Like it's one thing to say you don't like it but to say you'd rather them not post anything... Ouch.



I'd rather have an empty bucket than a bucket with a turd in it. (also partially kidding).

At least a turd could be used as fertilizer... You can't do anything with an empty bucket! :wink:


Lol I'll give you that one.

Re: New remix of Nevermen

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:04 am
by Echelon
I want BOC to remix the whole Nevermen album if they're not going to release one themselves. They should simply produce a whole album for their friends so we get to enjoy the ear candy for longer than 4 minutes! ;)