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The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:53 am
by Echelon
What started as an innocent prank from Biznasty reviving an ancient thread got me thinking a bit more deeper about things. How do you guys feel looking back half a decade ago, and seeing all these posts expressing optimism that something was right around the corner? I definitely feel a mixture of joy and sorrow. Happiness because it's always nice to see a lot of optimism concerning anything, nowadays, but also a bit sad, when you think we're into this next decade and we're still holding on for something new.

In a way, it brings me back to when I first got hardcore into BOC around fifteen and sixteen. I started diving deep into the lore, becoming a fanatic and eventually mellowing out a bit over the long wait time.

It's definitely making me existential but in a fun way. I hope that all of these long departed optimists return to the forum the day something is announced. I can't wait until there are like a hundred members online at once. That will truly be a new clear dawn for us all. :D

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:14 am
by arvy
Yes, it is definitely can be observed from the distance. It is always easier to spot on something from outside, that to keep everything in your head, while guessing the main reason why you have it. You need a friend also, to not take advantage of you, because of that, tho. The optimism is pretty healthy, I should say, with some good chunk of crystallised pessimism. But, there's still room for hope. Nor the times are so desperate, that you should question it. 8-18 years would be a fair challenge.

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:48 am
by arvy
The more you wait, the less you care. This is essentially how you let go. All you need is time. Time heals everything. It is incontrovertible.

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:49 pm
by Echelon
arvy wrote:The more you wait, the less you care. This is essentially how you let go. All you need is time. Time heals everything. It is incontrovertible.


Exactly. Wise words my friend. The long wait has definitely tempered a lot of people, including myself

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:22 am
by arvy
Echelon wrote:
arvy wrote:The more you wait, the less you care. This is essentially how you let go. All you need is time. Time heals everything. It is incontrovertible.


Exactly. Wise words my friend. The long wait has definitely tempered a lot of people, including myself


It is an honour. Appreciate this approach. They are no cry babies like Daft Punk, who just bye bye without any explanation. BOC are beasts, probably dealing with some dark cult stuff in the meantime. That's why it takes longer, than usually.

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:06 am
by Echelon
arvy wrote:
Echelon wrote:
arvy wrote:The more you wait, the less you care. This is essentially how you let go. All you need is time. Time heals everything. It is incontrovertible.


Exactly. Wise words my friend. The long wait has definitely tempered a lot of people, including myself


It is an honour. Appreciate this approach. They are no cry babies like Daft Punk, who just bye bye without any explanation. BOC are beasts, probably dealing with some dark cult stuff in the meantime. That's why it takes longer, than usually.


Excellent explanation on their approach. BOC probably have the best "long game" out there, with barely any missteps at all. And that is why they plot their next moves very tentatively. If it's a concept album, you know it's going to be done down to the very last detail.

While I cannot begrudge Daft Punk for leaving anonymously, since they have the right to privacy with whatever happened, their unceremonious way of leaving was disappointing. You'd think with a big music legacy that they'd go out with more of a bang than reused movie footage and a snippet of a song on Random Access Memories. The memorial plaque was the only thing new. They were quite similar to BOC in waiting eight years before doing anything, but they decided to go out with a whimper instead.

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:27 am
by Fredd-E
arvy wrote:BOC are beasts, probably dealing with some dark cult stuff in the meantime. That's why it takes longer, than usually.
If by dark cult stuff you mean parenthood, you're probably right. ;)

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:45 am
by arvy
I don't know.

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:02 pm
by rodox_head
arvy wrote:The more you wait, the less you care. This is essentially how you let go. All you need is time. Time heals everything. It is incontrovertible.

There's something unsettling to me about the concept of forgetting things you really love. Like, not just growing out of it taste-wise, but just going years in a row with it not even crossing your mind.

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:17 am
by arvy
rodox_head wrote:
arvy wrote:The more you wait, the less you care. This is essentially how you let go. All you need is time. Time heals everything. It is incontrovertible.

There's something unsettling to me about the concept of forgetting things you really love. Like, not just growing out of it taste-wise, but just going years in a row with it not even crossing your mind.

Yes. The beauty of your mind, heart and soul. To let go, forever. There's no turning back. Did you know, that you can literally die from a broken heart?

Re: The Optimism of the Past

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:17 pm
by Frindia
You certainly can. Kind of like Debbie Reynolds when her daughter Carrie Fisher died. Her death was a stroke but it was certainly a contributing factor considering Debbie died one day after Carrie. Broken heart.

I have not been listening to boc for long (2013-2014?) but I have strong optimism for this band. A lot of you keep the light super bright and it's pleasant to see this forum showing signs of life. I am almost positive once we see more activity ramp up, some older fans will show their heads.