Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:45 am
Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:31 pm
Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:32 pm
Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:54 pm
bocbocbocboc wrote:I don't know what I'd do if I found a copy of Acid Memories or Hooper Bay or something.
Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:44 am
demo wrote:
I assume they did, Sean from autechre mentioned that when someone leaked those releases Boards of Canada went "weird and cut a lot of people off".
I think it's always important to continuously remind ourselves, they don't owe us anything. I made a thread about this a while back, about what autechre said and how I don't want any of their old albums to leak.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14593
Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:15 am
Echelon wrote:demo wrote:
I assume they did, Sean from autechre mentioned that when someone leaked those releases Boards of Canada went "weird and cut a lot of people off".
I think it's always important to continuously remind ourselves, they don't owe us anything. I made a thread about this a while back, about what autechre said and how I don't want any of their old albums to leak.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14593
I know Sean said that, but they seemed pretty dismissive in '5 when they said that Acid Memories would probably leak. They probably knew who leaked Old Tunes and figured that person was going to betray them more and release Acid Memories. Miraculously, they didn't or maybe BOC threatened to sue them. Who knows.
bocbocbocboc wrote:I don't know what I'd do if I found a copy of Acid Memories or Hooper Bay or something.
Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:54 am
Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:57 am
rodox_head wrote:Where did they say that? Interesting that Acid Memories was the one that stood out to them, so I'm assuming they knew who it was.
Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:10 pm
Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:47 am
The Spaniard wrote:Before, MDG participated more. No MDG = No BoC.
Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:57 am
Echelon wrote:rodox_head wrote:Where did they say that? Interesting that Acid Memories was the one that stood out to them, so I'm assuming they knew who it was.
One of the interviews archived on BOCpages circa Campfire Headphase. An interviewer asked if the legendary five albums existed and they responded, "Yes" and that they expected Acid Memories to leak soon, or that they wouldn't be surprised if it did.
I can't read it any other way than "We know one of our asshole ex-friends is going to do us dirty and put Acid Memories out to the public."
And as I said, either the person had a change of heart and didn't put it out, or Hexagon Sun went all wickerman on em.
Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:27 am
tonx wrote: Better to have mostly us fans chewing through some random upload of a bad rip of a copy of a copy of a tape, than go through the mess of officially releasing any of them—having music journalists, label reps, record stores, all going ape shit about it. Pitchfork giving Acid Memories a 6.2… why bother?
Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:58 am
Echelon wrote:Considering Pitchfork shit on Twoism, which is a brilliant record that predicted vaporwave and did it better than most of it
Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:42 am
rodox_head wrote:Echelon wrote:Considering Pitchfork shit on Twoism, which is a brilliant record that predicted vaporwave and did it better than most of it
I mean, the framework and aesthetic is there, but I don't think I'd go that far
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:19 am
Echelon wrote:rodox_head wrote:Echelon wrote:Considering Pitchfork shit on Twoism, which is a brilliant record that predicted vaporwave and did it better than most of it
I mean, the framework and aesthetic is there, but I don't think I'd go that far
Hyperbole maybe, but Pitchfork tries to pretend to be on top of things and locate influences when they start. They totally missed it with Twoism.
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:02 am
rodox_head wrote:Something tells me that comparing BoC to vaporwave would be seen as a point against them, as genres like vaporwave, chillwave, and synthwave all kind of became oversaturated and not taken too seriously. That's just my impression, from an artistic perspective I love the concept of vaporwave. They were a stepping stone for sure, somewhere between acts like MBV or The Chameleons and the greater trip-hop/downtempo genre. Maybe nowadays it would be seen as a point towards it, but probably not ten years ago. It only took about 20 years for people to start looking fondly at eurodance.
Pitchfork also infamously slammed "Something To Write Home About" seemingly not even aware of the Emo genre, so.. yeah, if I were the bros I'd probably just laugh off whatever they have to say.
Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:23 am
Echelon wrote:rodox_head wrote:Something tells me that comparing BoC to vaporwave would be seen as a point against them, as genres like vaporwave, chillwave, and synthwave all kind of became oversaturated and not taken too seriously. That's just my impression, from an artistic perspective I love the concept of vaporwave. They were a stepping stone for sure, somewhere between acts like MBV or The Chameleons and the greater trip-hop/downtempo genre. Maybe nowadays it would be seen as a point towards it, but probably not ten years ago. It only took about 20 years for people to start looking fondly at eurodance.
Pitchfork also infamously slammed "Something To Write Home About" seemingly not even aware of the Emo genre, so.. yeah, if I were the bros I'd probably just laugh off whatever they have to say.
Actually, yeah, I get your point about not wanting to connect BOC with a genre that people are annoyed by or find tasteless. Though regardless, it's still a part of history, as much as emo is a far cheaper, lesser sub-division to eighties goth, or radio pop-punk to seventies OG Punk. It's hard to tell with Pitchfork though because they were upgrading all of Taylor Swift's albums to higher rankings, and she's hardly a groundbreaking indie band, unless you want to count sales and social impact.
Echelon wrote:I actually think that vaporwave is what caused BOC to pivot towards seventies electronic music with TH. Most vaporwave kids probably had no idea about those soundtrack composers or Tangerine Dream. If their next album is influenced by the music of Societas X Tape, imagine more music influenced by stuff that vaporwavers have never heard before.
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:18 am
rodox_head wrote:Echelon wrote:I actually think that vaporwave is what caused BOC to pivot towards seventies electronic music with TH. Most vaporwave kids probably had no idea about those soundtrack composers or Tangerine Dream. If their next album is influenced by the music of Societas X Tape, imagine more music influenced by stuff that vaporwavers have never heard before.
Tomorrow's Harvest is more representative of the kind of stuff Vaporwavers should have tried to achieve, instead of nostalgia for nostalgia's sake. Maybe even kind of a "Take that!" in a sense. It's good that BoC have stuck to their guns and avoided falling into self parody, even if we have to wait...
*looks at calendar*
a whole decade for a release
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:33 am
The Spaniard wrote:Before, MDG participated more. No MDG = No BoC.
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:53 pm
Echelon wrote:Back in 2010, between TCH and TH, there was a vaporwave album on Bandcamp. It seemed to be deliberately trashy, from the cover to the music, both utilizing trashy aesthetics and mock ominous dialogue snippets. The weird thing was, it was credited to Mike Sandison and Marcus Eoin. At first, you'd think: "Oh that's something a troll made." But not only does it sound like a Hell Interface style piss-take with deliberately low-effort melodies, but there's one track on it that is so good melodically that it makes you wonder. Was this BOC's answer to the vaporwave movement? Did Mike and Marcus decide to stick it to the people who took their nostalgic music at face-value? Or was it simply a troll? We may never know the answer to this.