Kevin Shields and BOC: Coinciding release schedules?

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This is all speculation so take with a grain of salt but...

I do not remember where I heard this, but apparently there is a rumor that the reason BOC released their fourth album, Tomorrow's Harvest was so it could coincide with My Bloody Valentine's third album. MBV. Both albums were released after a considerable gap in the band's discographies.

So my question to you is, do you think they'll do it again? Considering that once again there is a huge gap in both band's discographies will there be a similar coinciding release?

Only reason why believing this silly rumor is a bit worrying is because Kevin Shields is known for promising tons of stuff that never pans out. Last year alone he promised in an interview: two regular albums, a few EPs and a double album all at once, and the host simply laughed at him because she knew it would never come true. I kinda feel sorry for the guy actually.

On a last fun side note related to MBV, I'd like to point out one thing: What if that shoegaze drone on Societas was an excerpt from one of Shield's works in progress. Or possibly him playing Olson on shoegaze guitars?
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One thing that's for sure is that waiting for the next release (or even news about it) has become really boring, and we can even doubt about the fact that it will come one day. I won't be surprised if they stopped releasing stuff (it's something that would be really disapointing and even disgusting, but not SO surprising).

But regarding gaps between albums, well, mbv came 22 years after Loveless (it would be like if Geogaddi was still the Sandisons most recent album), so considering Tomorrow's Harvest just came 8 years after The Campfire Headphase, i woud say that the Sandisons' fans were in a way better situation. :D

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Samplehunter wrote:One thing that's for sure is that waiting for the next release (or even news about it) has become really boring, and we can even doubt about the fact that it will come one day. I won't be surprised if they stopped releasing stuff (it's something that would be really disapointing and even disgusting, but not SO surprising).

But regarding gaps between albums, well, mbv came 22 years after Loveless (it would be like if Geogaddi was still the Sandisons most recent album), so considering Tomorrow's Harvest just came 8 years after The Campfire Headphase, i woud say that the Sandisons' fans were in a way better situation. :D


Thanks for this well balanced post. My head is constantly a mixture of hope and doubt with my favorite band, where some days I'm confident that something's coming and other days it feels pretty hopeless.

Sometimes, like here, I'd even feel inclined to believe they are coordinating things with Mbv even if that's probably not true.

But all in all, we indeed have been treated way better than the mbv crowd since BOC have released four prime albums in less time than mbv who have only released three.
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https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/kevin-shie ... ine-music/

I hate to be even slightly optimistic about this, but two MBV records are slated for this year...Two with a gap inbetween.

Could this bode well for the bros as well?
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Huh. This is the first time I've heard of this rumor. TBH it strikes me as the music-release version of astrology. Just because MBV and TH both happened to come out in 2013 doesn't mean they were coordinated. Daft Punk and David Bowie also released albums after long gaps that same year.

I'm not sure where the next BOC album is at, whether it's taking forever to finish because of the band's exacting standards, or is being slowed by physical production bottlenecks; but whatever the case may be, I think we can be pretty sure the reason for the delay isn't because they're waiting on MBV to drop something. :P

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Echelon wrote:On a last fun side note related to MBV, I'd like to point out one thing: What if that shoegaze drone on Societas was an excerpt from one of Shield's works in progress. Or possibly him playing Olson on shoegaze guitars?


Too out of place and farfetched, and why does everyone think any track with a chord is Olson? It doesn’t sound anything like Olson. To me, it seems this forum likes to connect things that aren’t there.

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Echelon wrote:What if that shoegaze drone on Societas was an excerpt from one of Shield's works in progress. Or possibly him playing Olson on shoegaze guitars?


'grain of salt'.. you weren't joking

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I wasn't going to post in here again but I decided I should simply to stand up for myself and explain my reasons for this thread.

This was a theory and like all theories it was simply meant in good fun. That's why I put a disclaimer. I'm sorry you guys don't like it, or think it's plausible. I will try better next time to come up with a topic for this artist who we all mutually enjoy.

My only request is please do not be snarky to me. I try to be respectful to everyone on this forum and simply write things that would stimulate conversation. There is no harm in considering all possible outcomes of a situation, even those that seem farfetched.
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Echelon wrote:I wasn't going to post in here again but I decided I should simply to stand up for myself and explain my reasons for this thread.

This was a theory and like all theories it was simply meant in good fun. That's why I put a disclaimer. I'm sorry you guys don't like it, or think it's plausible. I will try better next time to come up with a topic for this artist who we all mutually enjoy.

My only request is please do not be snarky to me. I try to be respectful to everyone on this forum and simply write things that would stimulate conversation. There is no harm in considering all possible outcomes of a situation, even those that seem farfetched.



Jesus Christ, I feel for you man.
What the absolute fuck is with the weird negative vibes toward your theory? It was fun, something to play around with.

Sometimes, and I don't mean to be a prick to a lot of the people here, but sometimes it feels like trying to talk with the guy at the register at a record store. The shitty attitude, the snobbery, and snarky tone.

Echelon, I'm sorry if I hijacked this or did anything against forum rules and protocol. This place is so fucking confusing to me sometimes!
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Sky and Trails wrote:
Echelon wrote:I wasn't going to post in here again but I decided I should simply to stand up for myself and explain my reasons for this thread.

This was a theory and like all theories it was simply meant in good fun. That's why I put a disclaimer. I'm sorry you guys don't like it, or think it's plausible. I will try better next time to come up with a topic for this artist who we all mutually enjoy.

My only request is please do not be snarky to me. I try to be respectful to everyone on this forum and simply write things that would stimulate conversation. There is no harm in considering all possible outcomes of a situation, even those that seem farfetched.



Jesus Christ, I feel for you man.
What the absolute fuck is with the weird negative vibes toward your theory? It was fun, something to play around with.

Sometimes, and I don't mean to be a prick to a lot of the people here, but sometimes it feels like trying to talk with the guy at the register at a record store. The shitty attitude, the snobbery, and snarky tone.

Echelon, I'm sorry if I hijacked this or did anything against forum rules and protocol. This place is so fucking confusing to me sometimes!



No I honestly appreciate this outreach my friend. Even if I'm very passionate, I mean nothing but benevolence to this forum. Simply trying to keep it going in a draught.

And honestly even if the theory is 'silly' we have no idea if they're friends with Shields or not. They sure talk about him a lot in their interviews.

So yeah this was totally harmless and was meant in a light hearted way. I appreciate your words honestly :)
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Echelon wrote:
Sky and Trails wrote:
Echelon wrote:I wasn't going to post in here again but I decided I should simply to stand up for myself and explain my reasons for this thread.

This was a theory and like all theories it was simply meant in good fun. That's why I put a disclaimer. I'm sorry you guys don't like it, or think it's plausible. I will try better next time to come up with a topic for this artist who we all mutually enjoy.

My only request is please do not be snarky to me. I try to be respectful to everyone on this forum and simply write things that would stimulate conversation. There is no harm in considering all possible outcomes of a situation, even those that seem farfetched.



Jesus Christ, I feel for you man.
What the absolute fuck is with the weird negative vibes toward your theory? It was fun, something to play around with.

Sometimes, and I don't mean to be a prick to a lot of the people here, but sometimes it feels like trying to talk with the guy at the register at a record store. The shitty attitude, the snobbery, and snarky tone.

Echelon, I'm sorry if I hijacked this or did anything against forum rules and protocol. This place is so fucking confusing to me sometimes!



No I honestly appreciate this outreach my friend. Even if I'm very passionate, I mean nothing but benevolence to this forum. Simply trying to keep it going in a draught.

And honestly even if the theory is 'silly' we have no idea if they're friends with Shields or not. They sure talk about him a lot in their interviews.

So yeah this was totally harmless and was meant in a light hearted way. I appreciate your words honestly :)


No problem!
I really am working on how I come across here. I feel like an ass because I thought I might have went overboard, and it was because I was in a bad mood.
Why is it that I can feel rejected even on an internet forum? :oops:
But it helps to see others being real.

Keep up with the ideas.

I have a theory that BOC are doing the soundtrack to a reboot of Flight of the Navigator. No evidence, no connection, other than my own personal nostalgia, and honestly, I bet I could simply Google the info and find out I'm wrong, but I won't, because I want to be surprised. lol
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I think the wonder of BOC is the theorizing in between the gaps. It's like nothing and everything is right at the same time, and whatever they give us is something we won't be expecting but be rewarding all the same. I love that theory too. Thanks for posting it.:D
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I like this observation. While I don't believe BoC's future release dates are in any way reliant on MBV's output, there have definitely been some similarities between the two artists across the past decade.

Both have since reissued their seminal works on vinyl, and similarly, celebrated significant album anniversaries with new interviews and official merch. You could argue MBV have been more active (two tours, live debuts of new material, more interviews) but the bros aren't too far behind with a bunch of new remixes and a 2-hour mixtape.

I know both artists are FAR from prolific, but people do seem to underestimate how active they've actually been.

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Sherbet Head wrote:I like this observation. While I don't believe BoC's future release dates are in any way reliant on MBV's output, there have definitely been some similarities between the two artists across the past decade.

Both have since reissued their seminal works on vinyl, and similarly, celebrated significant album anniversaries with new interviews and official merch. You could argue MBV have been more active (two tours, live debuts of new material, more interviews) but the bros aren't too far behind with a bunch of new remixes and a 2-hour mixtape.

I know both artists are FAR from prolific, but people do seem to underestimate how active they've actually been.



Thanks Sherbert Head :) honestly I should have made this a comparison between the artists thread than a speculation thread because it would have been much better for discussion and people wouldn't have come down so hard on me.

That said, I think you did great comparing the two artists and the similar limbo they seem to be in as well as showing us the scraps each groups thrown to us as we eagerly await the next album. :D
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