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BoC verses Basinski
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:54 am
by celadon
I have been listening to William Basinski's 'Disintergration Loops' alot recently. I love repetition in music so the cylcles and subtle patterns in his music are perfect for me. Anyway, I'm particualrily taken by the second CD of the series and especially dlp3. This track is 42.02 minutes long and has a loop whose cycle is 8.3 seconds. This in itself clarifys the beauty of the music that such a short phrase, which hardly changes for 40 minutes, can hold my attention.
After listening to this I went straight to 'Heard from Telegraph Lines' and it turns out that the loop in that track is 8.5 sec for a 1.10 minute track. Much shorter than basinski of course but it got me wondering what would it be like to have a BoC track that went on for 30-40 mins. What do you guys think.
p.s I've got a throat infection and have time on my hands - hence the geeky post
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:40 pm
by Cupz
And...Listen to the Disintegration Loops number 6... BoC used it in Macquary ridge
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:42 pm
by celadon
Cupz wrote:And...Listen to the Disintegration Loops number 6... BoC used it in Macquary ridge
Inter-est-ing. Didnt know that!
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:02 pm
by YELLOW
maybe someone can post a clip / clips of these
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:12 pm
by Cupz
Exerp - Disintegration Loop 6
this chorus loops for 40 minutes or so
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:33 pm
by six-five-two
...Why didn't you post this earlier? I just finished downloading the whole thing and it took an hour..
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:58 pm
by Cupz
I thought everyone knew this?
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:32 pm
by mechanismj
I've known about it for a long time. The chord progression is IDENTICAL. I don't know if they flat out sampled it. But, they are admitted fans of Basinski's work so who knows.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:46 pm
by infinite sevens
i likes.
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:48 pm
by Infinite E
mechanismj wrote:I've known about it for a long time. The chord progression is IDENTICAL. I don't know if they flat out sampled it. But, they are admitted fans of Basinski's work so who knows.
yeah... the sounds used are very similar too- at the very least they used the same instrument then distorted it in the same way imo
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:22 pm
by bluecrayons
Yes, this was on watmm, I think the two tracks are subtley different. I really enjoy both of them.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:05 am
by azamarro
weird that i came across this topic while i was actually listening to these loops...
i think it'd be pretty interesting if boc did anything that long. the closest thing they have to basinski's work is farewell fire, in terms of length, and it is pretty repetitive too. unfortunately, i don't think that piece is quite as captivating as any of basinski's disintegration loops.
i was thinking about the parallels between both boc and these loops. both are interested with the deterioration of recorded music. boc intentionally "damages" their music to make it sound aged, while basinski's pieces are actually from the 80's and are naturally aged. maybe that is the reason why i find his loops to be so beautiful and tolerable for such a long duration. nothing is too forced-sounding. his music is already old, and there is an element of chance to the music because the tape head just destroys the loop in the process. basinski leaves it to "nature" as to how the piece evolves.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:11 pm
by Mexicola
Cupz wrote:And...Listen to the Disintegration Loops number 6... BoC used it in Macquary ridge
Can't believe I've never realised this before! I've had Disintegration Loops for ages and somehow never noticed this before. Doh!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:23 pm
by mdg
Mexicola wrote:Cupz wrote:And...Listen to the Disintegration Loops number 6... BoC used it in Macquary ridge
Can't believe I've never realised this before! I've had Disintegration Loops for ages and somehow never noticed this before. Doh!
BOC didn't sample William Basinski for that track!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:39 pm
by Mexicola
mdg wrote:Mexicola wrote:Cupz wrote:And...Listen to the Disintegration Loops number 6... BoC used it in Macquary ridge
Can't believe I've never realised this before! I've had Disintegration Loops for ages and somehow never noticed this before. Doh!
BOC didn't sample William Basinski for that track!
Any idea whether they had heard the Basinski track at all MDG? Comparing the two, Macquarie Ridge does have a very similar sound. Both tracks are amazing by the way...
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:21 pm
by rl/vl
I used to think I heard the similarities between Macquarie Ridge and D|P 6 but the more I listen the more I realise how different they are.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:09 pm
by ryetronics
That link is long dead... any chance of someone re-uploading it for those of us too slow to catch it the first time?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:12 pm
by m.oreilly
i couldn't find a copy on line, except through amazon (mp3...). i went ahead and bought it. the samples were very nice
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:35 pm
by Retrodreaming
The Disintegration Loops III
The Disintegration Loops IV
ok sorry for the links,ive removed them.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:42 pm
by Cupz
Hotlinking to copywrited material is illegal
