A_Northern_Soul wrote:But you *should* do things that benefit others and not just you!
I'm gonna stop you right there. Who are you to tell me what I should be doing? And more importantly, in this case specifically what I should be doing with my own body. Why do you project your own sheep mentality onto other people? Deciding for them what they should or should not be doing because what you believe is right in your perspective, or better said, someone else's perspective that you borrowed for convenience?
If young and healthy people get vaccinated, then there is less chance of them catching the virus and passing on to others who are older, vulnerable or unable to take the vaccine themselves due to other health conditions. Collective action and collective social responsibility is GOOD.
I agree that collective action and social responsibility is good, certainly. I just don't think that to vaccinate every healthy living human being on the planet is part of that responsibility. I think people should have the personal freedom to choose whether to take a vaccin or not. I don't think it should be forced, directly AND indirectly, and also don't think it should be frowned upon when people decline.
I don't think this virus is a mistake and that it actually exists to shake things up a bit in the world. Sometimes you need a bit of chaos to get to a more grounded society. Nature tends to do that, you know. Nature also tends to be build around the principle of the survival of the fittest, where the strongest that are necessary for evolution survive. I obviously don't make that shit up. I'm not saying we should have no empathy or that we should do nothing at all to counter the consequences of this pandemic. What I'm saying is that in my perspective we should not go completely out of our way to save a relative small amount of people, and certainly not because there are simply no long term studies on these vaccins. It's still a risk you are taking as a healthy human being.
As for potential long term side effects of the vaccine. Do you know a long term side effect of COVID? Death is pretty long term.
Yeah, congratulations for creating this pretty hyperbole. So in other words, in your anxiety bubble everyone who gets COVID-19 will die and therefore the only viable alternative is a forced worldwide vaccine? Is that really the point you are making here or am I missing something? I don't think I have to tell you that the amount of people that die from this virus worldwide is really small relatively. Yet to counter this fact it somehow seems a good idea to vaccinate EVERY healthy person in the world. How does that even make sense?
I caught it last year and I was reasonably healthy, with a famously strong among my family immune system - it was an ongoing joke that others would catch an illness and be floored for days, but I'd have a sore throat for a couple of hours, knock back a couple of large whiskies, have a big sleep and be fine again. That was me, but Covid knocked me for six - my illness at the time wasn't that bad compared to some, but it is honestly only the last couple of months I've felt consistently well - I've had severe fatigue for about a year to the point where a short walk would tire me out. I'm largely OK now, but I'm at the point where I honestly can't see myself getting to 100% pre-Covid health any time soon; possibly ever.
Yeah, this is just your personal experience with the virus. And for every one of these experiences there is a dozen experiences of just a flu, a mild flu, or some people who get it and barely get any symptoms at all. Just because you have had a rough time or some people die, that doesn't mean that everyone should go and put a vaccine in their bodies to prevent a super tiny chance of death.
And even so, death is all around us, everywhere. People die all the time. You have no control at all, you could die today. Death is part of life. It's the law of nature. Why do humans have this sick resistance to death, as if we can eventually prevent this inevitable event. And by trying to control all aspects of life we end up living in fear, which is the equivalent of being dead while alive. Great.
There is no vast, over-arching conspiracy about the vaccine being used to "control" us beyond what is obvious - governments want vaccinated populations to keep the wheels turning economically - that's not sinister; I want that too. I want a life back and I want a healthy population.
I don't know if you have been paying attention to current world events, but there is a big movement of even greater globalization happening, and it has everything to do with control, power and wealth. When power is centralized further and further there will come a time where nothing, not even a nation itself will be able to respond, let alone the individual.
These vaccins are just one example. How to have control over people? By making them disposable and dependent. Same thing with basic income. Take away jobs, take away salary and replace it with state funded income. Great, now we become even more reliant on something external. And if we do not obey we risk to not receive what we really need.
I'm not anti vaccins. I think that for some they are very useful obviously. But I am totally baffled by the fact that so many people somehow, in a very twisted way, demonize people who actually have a very different approach to this whole thing. Government decides what kind of drugs are legal and which are illegal. Government decides what you should put in your body and what you shouldn't. Fuck that.
It's about time people wake up and take responsibility. Not some over-rationalized do-gooder faux responsibility because we feel we have lost something and we cannot fathom change, but true responsibility that is inherent in all of us. To take action from the place of freedom and clarity. Power resides where men believe it resides. True power is within, don't give it away obediently.
TLDR - stop with the conspiracy theories and roll your sleeve up.
TLDR - stop with the fear-mongering and don't blindly obey because you do actually possess true freedom and self-authority.