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Sky and Trails wrote:Speaking of this....
Well, at one point the whole Ukraine issue came up and, I shit you not, I had to listen to a bunch of absolute morons talk about how it was fake, how Putin is a good guy, and how this is all Biden's fault. They also managed to relate this to high gas prices (if you can't already tell, I'm in the States) and said......QUOTE...
"See, Biden made the prices high by buying all of our gas from the Ukraine. When you pump all that money into importing all of our gas from the Ukraine it creates war. That's how wars are created, by pumping money into other countries. Trump had the best economy ever because he didn't buy gas from ANYONE. We made it all ourselves, here, in America. He didn't have any wars either. Biden started this war because he doesn't want Americans to have jobs."
And it just went on and on and on.
Orbited insanitarium wrote:Sorry Sky and Trails, but using such words never helps even if you disagree with his opinion.
I'll try to remain impartial but I'm not having this topic turn into such insult throwing as this.
SamuraiDrifter wrote:Orbited insanitarium wrote:Sorry Sky and Trails, but using such words never helps even if you disagree with his opinion.
I'll try to remain impartial but I'm not having this topic turn into such insult throwing as this.
To be fair tho, arvy's "you are dumb" comment was also really rude, and not at all in good faith.
Orbited insanitarium wrote:.
I'd just hoped as the creator of this topic, that we would be civilized in this discussion, considering the subject matter.
SonicDimension wrote:Russian disinformation is even being posted on Twoism? This is sad.
Putin recently stated that it is his destiny to reclaim pieces of the former Russian empire, as Tsar Peter did hundreds of years ago. He openly expresses his desire to destroy the Ukrainian nation and culture. So who still believes that this war is about stopping the American-backed Ukrainian Nazis who are threatening Russia's national security? It's incredible how gullible people are.
This is an imperialistic war of conquest where atrocities are being committed by Russian forces on a daily basis. Putin's 'government' is nothing more than a band of gangsters and terrorists at this point. There is no way to reach a diplomatic solution with such people.
Negamuse wrote:Nah, that's lazy IMO... there are facts, and there is information. Just pointing to "there is disagreement therefore the truth is unknowable" is just a way of absolving ourselves of the responsibility to interrogate what we see.
Negamuse wrote:If you treat all information sources as equally suspect you weigh state propaganda from an agressor the same as first-hand information from people directly affected by that agression.
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