THE ANGRY RANT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jonse]

Sometimes I can't go outside my door without being recognised and jeered at. Occasionally I feel like I'm being boxed in. Everyone seems to know me yet I'm not familiar with them.
Until this point I was having mild insults thrown at me every few days, I feel like I should rise above it.

I went on the bus today to escape my town (just for a few hours), literal milliseconds after after I was dropped off at my stop from the journey back I had slurs shouted at me from across the street. F*ggot f*cker, P*do.
I can't stand it, this is the first time I have been called the first one, which honestly came as a complete shock. Just because I was standing on a isolated spot and there was little people around. Luckily though I faced their back walking insults with a blank, mouth-closed expression. Showing no emotion. Any would likely cause more bother. Gave 'em nothing.

I don't feel like there is much of an upside from this point forward apart from my reaction.
For the past few months, apart from odd occasions, I've been feeling very isolated with no-one to talk to, those that do mostly piss take.

Angry? Not particularly. Just feeling small and wondering how this could escalate. I certainly don't know them, but my appearance is a running joke in this town. I've been belittled by those my age for it. Quirky mannerisms, it's no surprise that I do stand out a mile to them.
It's true, I am feeling low. It's not bad, but this instance has me feeling detached. Not exactly wanting to go for a walk, nor outside right now.

I'm sorry you're feeling down but I'm slightly confused here.

Are you deliberately censoring yourself or am I just out of touch? Because if I'm not, there's a lot to unpack here.

[Orbited insanitarium]

I'm sorry you're feeling down but I'm slightly confused here.

Are you deliberately censoring yourself or am I just out of touch? Because if I'm not, there's a lot to unpack here.

Ah no, they are not terms I am calling myself. Just a recollection of what was shouted.

It was censored deliberately, mainly because it's rare to hear those names, especially in the UK, and language was so strong I thought I'd put a censor there. I was taken aback by being called the slurs, so I thought at least by censoring I'd not have to put 'em on twoism. Trying my best not to be associated, let alone saying them.

I wrote those paragraphs of noise quite late, it is jumble of words. Perhaps I should have drafted it and waited to see if I felt the same later.
Ta for your words!

[rodox_head]

I'm sorry you're feeling down but I'm slightly confused here.

Are you deliberately censoring yourself or am I just out of touch? Because if I'm not, there's a lot to unpack here.

At the risk of butting into a conversation I have no part in, what did you mean by that? I do that a lot myself.

[Jonse]

I didn't exactly explain myself well either. I guess I'm confused as to why someone would be saying all of those things together. I understand the first two, people can shitheads. The last is a lot more specific and accusatory.

[Orbited insanitarium]

I didn't exactly explain myself well either. I guess I'm confused as to why someone would be saying all of those things together. I understand the first two, people can shitheads. The last is a lot more specific and accusatory.

I think you've answered your own question there.

The last is a lot more specific and accusatory.

people can shitheads.

I'm not trying to give a history lesson but it's rough as all hell here in North Yorkshire. It's not uncommon for the third to be used in this context of I suppose verbal bullying.

I really shouldn't have posted anything. But I was just fed up of it.

Aye granted, this was not given as much context as it should.
I'd just spent the day out of town for pure escapism, I don't regularly travel outside of this town but it was a nice change and helped me step out of my comfort zone. I had a great day, parts really cheered me up and I felt much more independent. Found some smashing CDs to play later but that's beside the point. And after all that, the very second I arrive, it starts again, more straight forward and vulgar than before. I'm guessing this was the last straw.

This is also kind of a big thing for me, I've moved house once before because of this. Both my mother and myself are autistic, this hinders my social skills greatly, and for her I'm a slight worry. A big factor from this (but not solely because) is why I don't have any friends or people who I can talk to long term or short term.

The pandemic really effed everything up for me, I was doing so well, getting out there, meeting people. Joining events and clubs. The past 18 months or so, I haven't made much of an effort to return to that progress. Certainly my mental health severely declined in this past year.
I didn't want to get to this stage of being afraid to walk around my town.

[Jonse]

You're fine, you gave as much context as you needed to (you know what thread you're in after all). I am glad you posted what you did. I am distant these days from the UK part of my lineage and wouldn't remotely know how commonly that is thrown around just as a general verbal insult where you are. It's not really that much more outlandish than assuming someone is a homosexual, I'm just not sure what the visual indications would be, especially to the extent somebody just yells that out of the blue.

I understand now that you're just being harassed. I am really fucking sorry for that. People disgust me on a regular basis.

Please don't be afraid to reintegrate to society. If I were a neighboring Twoismer, I'd offer to walk with you so you didn't feel this way. I'll definitely tell you though that you seem to be incredibly well-minded and nobody should be terrorizing you. Didn't need any more context. You're fine.

[Quadrivium]

Damn Orb. That's rough and I'm sorry you're going through that all shite.

The pandemic really effed everything up for me, I was doing so well, getting out there, meeting people. Joining events and clubs. The past 18 months or so, I haven't made much of an effort to return to that progress.

Maybe try to get back to socialising more? I know it's so very hard but it really does a lot for your mental health. Finding and connecting with like-minded and accepting people does wonders. You don't have to go full out. You could take it one step at a time. Maybe join some online clubs / zoom sessions and work your way from there?

[Orbited insanitarium]

I wish to greatly thank you, both Jonse and Quad.
I don't have enough time on my hands at this moment to fully flesh out a reply, but I wish to add before then how much I appreciate both your responses. Many thanks again.

Also Quad, for your advice, I've taken on board fully what you wrote in regard to getting "out there".
As someone who's always thrived on conversation, if I don't have a natter with someone, my mental health decreases. I always aspire to this, but until now I haven't followed through all that much. Rousing words, my friend.

[kakanara]

damn man that sounds absolutely awful sorry i wasnt in here to comment hope your situation has improved

[Orbited insanitarium]

damn man that sounds absolutely awful sorry i wasnt in here to comment hope your situation has improved

Thank you! Nothing major since the last time I wrote here, but I've mostly been keeping out of everyone's way.
Post-summer and at the end of the year after the tourists go home, the town is a whole lot quieter. And when it gets chilly, the locals try to do the same. Since I'm not on social media, it's a big plus.

[mechanismj]

SQUARE MUFFINS

[rodox_head]

I really hate AI art and really wish it would fade away. My art may look like shit, but at least my conscious brain conceptualized it, hand picked the resources, consciously put it together, and learned what works and what doesn't.

Who cares about the value of the human imagination when there's major coinage to be made.
FEED THE MACHINES!

[Orbited insanitarium]

I really hate AI art and really wish it would fade away. My art may look like shit, but at least my conscious brain conceptualized it, hand picked the resources, consciously put it together, and learned what works and what doesn't.

Who cares about the value of the human imagination when there's major coinage to be made.
FEED THE MACHINES!

I'm in agreeance mostly with this. In the context of reddit or twitter posts where the image promt was just "US Senate made out of bread" or "I put in Olson into deepdream and this is what came out"<--- that, in this case really peeves me. It seems just for shits n giggles, and if you look at a program like Dall-E 2, from that you get stupidly realistic results. (Companies behind them must be raking in millions, too widespread on social media not to. Just a thought.)

But people creating album artwork from this, is tricky and sticky. Folks like mechanismj on this forum professionally use AI to generate covers for their music (being thriftwicker audio society), it still feeds the program but at least it's being put to better use. I really like that when the purpose is for a project.
Yet the way it's most commonly used now takes away a LOT of creativity. It actually bothers me as much as it bothers you. Is it now the norm for AI to be the second best thing next to imagination? Is it damaging artistic integrity? That would really sadden me.

I don't know what the percentage is for people who use it for entertainment and/or mocking purposes.... I'd a-thunk it to be pretty high.
You can't convince me that Skynet isn't already here!

(Hey, bright-side! I mostly just use artificial intelligence increase an image resolution, which is not often as my artwork is the original source so there's no upscaling necessary.)

[rodox_head]

I really hate AI art and really wish it would fade away. My art may look like shit, but at least my conscious brain conceptualized it, hand picked the resources, consciously put it together, and learned what works and what doesn't.

Who cares about the value of the human imagination when there's major coinage to be made.
FEED THE MACHINES!

I'm in agreeance mostly with this. In the context of reddit or twitter posts where the image promt was just "US Senate made out of bread" or "I put in Olson into deepdream and this is what came out"<--- that, in this case really peeves me. It seems just for shits n giggles, and if you look at a program like Dall-E 2, from that you get stupidly realistic results. (Companies behind them must be raking in millions, too widespread on social media not to. Just a thought.)

But people creating album artwork from this, is tricky and sticky. Folks like mechanismj on this forum professionally use AI to generate covers for their music (being thriftwicker audio society), it still feeds the program but at least it's being put to better use. I really like that when the purpose is for a project.
Yet the way it's most commonly used now takes away a LOT of creativity. It actually bothers me as much as it bothers you. Is it now the norm for AI to be the second best thing next to imagination? Is it damaging artistic integrity? That would really sadden me.

I don't know what the percentage is for people who use it for entertainment and/or mocking purposes.... I'd a-thunk it to be pretty high.
You can't convince me that Skynet isn't already here!

(Hey, bright-side! I mostly just use artificial intelligence increase an image resolution, which is not often as my artwork is the original source so there's no upscaling necessary.)

A lot of that stuff has heavy financial backing to begin with. Like all tools, it's just a tool, but whenever the coinage comes into the equation, any ethics and morals fly out the window faster than a Russian politician. Most of that meme-ish behaviour really only seemed novel when it all still looked like garbage attempts at image construction.

Album art is a bit of a "Wild West" pocket of artistic expression, or at least it has the potential to be, since it leans into the symbiotic nature of art. It makes you think of the sounds, atmosphere, performers, messages, and finally the emotional connection of the audience. I don't necessarily oppose it's usage as a single ingredient amongst a myriad of others if it lines with the mindset the artist wants to convey.

Art tends to be treated more like a product or commodity rather than anything that means anything, so it doesn't surprise me that something like this would receive such a boost amongst those outside the hobby. I don't know about you, but I'm dogshit-tired of all the illustrations of big-tiddy anime girls, fantasy settings (that may or may not include big-tiddy anime girls), furry porn, crudely sketched comics, non expansive fan art of existing properties (which may or may not include big-tiddy anime girls), and the fucking endless sea of wojacks and other nihilistic and self righteous memery as the only modicums of art in existence currently.

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[steeldancer-x]

I really hate AI art and really wish it would fade away. My art may look like shit, but at least my conscious brain conceptualized it, hand picked the resources, consciously put it together, and learned what works and what doesn't.

Who cares about the value of the human imagination when there's major coinage to be made.
FEED THE MACHINES!

I'm in agreeance mostly with this. In the context of reddit or twitter posts where the image promt was just "US Senate made out of bread" or "I put in Olson into deepdream and this is what came out"<--- that, in this case really peeves me. It seems just for shits n giggles, and if you look at a program like Dall-E 2, from that you get stupidly realistic results. (Companies behind them must be raking in millions, too widespread on social media not to. Just a thought.)

But people creating album artwork from this, is tricky and sticky. Folks like mechanismj on this forum professionally use AI to generate covers for their music (being thriftwicker audio society), it still feeds the program but at least it's being put to better use. I really like that when the purpose is for a project.
Yet the way it's most commonly used now takes away a LOT of creativity. It actually bothers me as much as it bothers you. Is it now the norm for AI to be the second best thing next to imagination? Is it damaging artistic integrity? That would really sadden me.

I don't know what the percentage is for people who use it for entertainment and/or mocking purposes.... I'd a-thunk it to be pretty high.
You can't convince me that Skynet isn't already here!

(Hey, bright-side! I mostly just use artificial intelligence increase an image resolution, which is not often as my artwork is the original source so there's no upscaling necessary.)

A lot of that stuff has heavy financial backing to begin with. Like all tools, it's just a tool, but whenever the coinage comes into the equation, any ethics and morals fly out the window faster than a Russian politician. Most of that meme-ish behaviour really only seemed novel when it all still looked like garbage attempts at image construction.

Album art is a bit of a "Wild West" pocket of artistic expression, or at least it has the potential to be, since it leans into the symbiotic nature of art. It makes you think of the sounds, atmosphere, performers, messages, and finally the emotional connection of the audience. I don't necessarily oppose it's usage as a single ingredient amongst a myriad of others if it lines with the mindset the artist wants to convey.

Art tends to be treated more like a product or commodity rather than anything that means anything, so it doesn't surprise me that something like this would receive such a boost amongst those outside the hobby. I don't know about you, but I'm dogshit-tired of all the illustrations of big-tiddy anime girls, fantasy settings (that may or may not include big-tiddy anime girls), furry porn, crudely sketched comics, non expansive fan art of existing properties (which may or may not include big-tiddy anime girls), and the fucking endless sea of wojacks and other nihilistic and self righteous memery as the only modicums of art in existence currently.

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It's a huge problem! There are so many people out there now trying to pass off AI art as their own 'original' work (luckily it's easy to tell, always look at the hands). It's stunting an already depleting-imaginative process among the general population. There's seriously no fuckin humiliation anymore!
It has to be prettier. It has to be faster. They're all trying to turn US into the robots.

[rodox_head]

The first thing I see when opening up KnowYourMeme is "AI Pornography" and I don't know if it's just the 2 Rockstars I just drank kicking in, but I'm just left mentally catatonic at the sight of it.

I may be going a into TMI territory here, so viewer discretion advised I guess...

Spoiler: show

For anyone that gives a shit about this kind of thing, this is the kind of terror that I've been subversively criticizing in the overall majority of my artworks. The "objectification of humanity" as I've liked to call it. I'm pulling back the curtain here; all the humanoid samples I've utilized were taken from pornographic sources, but here's the thing, they're all 3D models. I draw the line at using the likeness of any actual actor/actress for the reason that I object to any further stripping away of their humanity. I was exposed to this kind of abstract erotica as a developing adolescent some 15 or so years ago and re-contextualizing it through art was the only way I could really come to terms with how it effected my development and even my own identity. We've gone from default DAZ Studio models, to SFM models of recognized characters, to now just using humanity itself as the modeling clay. I can only imagine how this'll fuck up an entire generation of Zoomers and Alphas.

Also...

FUCKING STOP WITH THIS SHIT! I'm so fucking tired of this whole equating of viewing pornography to actual p***philia rhetoric that further fuels the shitty war of the sexes that continues due to the isolated nature of social media. Even someone like me who samples stuff from old skuzzy Russian websites and actually enjoys listening to t.A.T.u thinks you're being disgustingly facetious in these remarks. The closest I've ever come to mentioning this was with "Never Mind the Seeds, Here's the Soil" and even then, it was symbolic and not literal.

This whole thing leaves me wondering if I should continue making this kind of art or just give up and off myself

[Orbited insanitarium]

The first thing I see when opening up KnowYourMeme is "AI Pornography" and I don't know if it's just the 2 Rockstars I just drank kicking in, but I'm just left mentally catatonic at the sight of it.

I may be going a into TMI territory here, so viewer discretion advised I guess...

Spoiler: show

For anyone that gives a shit about this kind of thing, this is the kind of terror that I've been subversively criticizing in the overall majority of my artworks. The "objectification of humanity" as I've liked to call it. I'm pulling back the curtain here; all the humanoid samples I've utilized were taken from pornographic sources, but here's the thing, they're all 3D models. I draw the line at using the likeness of any actual actor/actress for the reason that I object to any further stripping away of their humanity. I was exposed to this kind of abstract erotica as a developing adolescent some 15 or so years ago and re-contextualizing it through art was the only way I could really come to terms with how it effected my development and even my own identity. We've gone from default DAZ Studio models, to SFM models of recognized characters, to now just using humanity itself as the modeling clay. I can only imagine how this'll fuck up an entire generation of Zoomers and Alphas.

Also...

FUCKING STOP WITH THIS SHIT! I'm so fucking tired of this whole equating of viewing pornography to actual p***philia rhetoric that further fuels the shitty war of the sexes that continues due to the isolated nature of social media. Even someone like me who samples stuff from old skuzzy Russian websites and actually enjoys listening to t.A.T.u thinks you're being disgustingly facetious in these remarks. The closest I've ever come to mentioning this was with "Never Mind the Seeds, Here's the Soil" and even then, it was symbolic and not literal.

This whole thing leaves me wondering if I should continue making this kind of art or just give up and off myself

So much I want to respond to but I'm starting at the core. The artwork you create is from your own mind. it is the most individual thing there is. I think of yours similarly, I have no background in the form or ideas behind your art, so it is very unique to me. And the glorification of AI, indeed sexuality in these past few years only makes me pay more attention to the dying breed of original/organic form.
I've sometimes thought on producing artwork that you should do it for yourself. If you're happy with it and anyone else takes the time to notice it, that is moreso a confirmation than a bonus.

I get more irritated by the people who glorify the results over social media than the programs themselves. This is a bleak perverse outlook and there is nothing much we can do to prevent it, but a detailed dissection like yours I really appreciate, you need that sometimes when the world moves so FAST...

Also if I had to disagree with anywhich thing in your post, it'd be Rockstars, they seem like the American equivalent to Red Bull, right nasty shizzle there. When you need the loo it's like rusty water, that's the TMI in my post I guess.

[bungler666]

Not associated with what you posted previously, but WHY is life the way it is???
Why is it so fucking short? Why do you live in the moment, a split second?
Why do you live through your memories? Does anything matter if you’re gonna die and lose your consiousness anyways?
Why can’t we extend a moment? I can’t come to terms with this shit. I have constant anxiety over this.

[bungler666]

Sorry, should have posted in the drunk thread or not posted at all...

[rodox_head]

Sorry, should have posted in the drunk thread or not posted at all...

Don't worry about it. It's the angry rant thread so you're not bringing anyone down here.