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(parenthesis) wrote:alright, I gotta come clean...I love almost everything by autechre and even though Quaristice didn't get terrific fan base reviews, I loved it. But this album just sounds bland. Lots of Ae's stuff sounds robotic and cold, but this is just boring and half of the tracks sound the same. The only ones I like are see on see and known(1) and they are average compared to the rest of ae's stuff. I wish I hadn't paid for this..
(parenthesis) wrote:alright, I gotta come clean...I love almost everything by autechre and even though Quaristice didn't get terrific fan base reviews, I loved it. But this album just sounds bland. Lots of Ae's stuff sounds robotic and cold, but this is just boring and half of the tracks sound the same. The only ones I like are see on see and known(1) and they are average compared to the rest of ae's stuff. I wish I hadn't paid for this..
saturdayindex wrote:I don't get the appeal of known(1). I don't really like that track. At all.
And how come no one ever mentions Chiastic Slide? That album seems to me to be so much more alive and visceral and real, and remains my favorite Autechre album. When I listen to Chiastic Slide, I can hear that they put a lot of effort into every sound, every nuance. It sounds like Booth and Brown took great care to craft a fine sculpture. Every knob turned just right, the decay of every reverb tweaked to sound just perfect. It's good. It's emotionally varied--it's touching, it's exciting, it's even fun in parts--like MUSIC should be. But with their newer stuff, it's as if It's almost as if they can sit down and say, Hey, we're Autechre, so we can do ... THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS, and a lot of it is just us screwing around, but you'll like it.
And maybe that's the point?
Now that's not to say that some of their newer stuff isn't fantastic (I liked the first half of Untilted a lot), and they do have a few standout tracks on Quaristice and Oversteps, but I just don't like all the arbitration and algorithmic beat/note generation going on. My mind doesn't dig that. With their older stuff it was like, every note I knew they wanted there, every note was placed by the master craftsmen. Now, listening is like, whoa, that's insane, only autechre could get away with that, but I'm not really ENJOYING it, I'm not respecting it as much as their old stuff.
Maybe I'm just not giving this album its time, but I'm pretty sure I could never feel the same way about Untilted, Quaristice, or Oversteps, as I do about Chiastic Slide.
hexagon son wrote:saturdayindex wrote:I don't get the appeal of known(1). I don't really like that track. At all.
And how come no one ever mentions Chiastic Slide? That album seems to me to be so much more alive and visceral and real, and remains my favorite Autechre album. When I listen to Chiastic Slide, I can hear that they put a lot of effort into every sound, every nuance. It sounds like Booth and Brown took great care to craft a fine sculpture. Every knob turned just right, the decay of every reverb tweaked to sound just perfect. It's good. It's emotionally varied--it's touching, it's exciting, it's even fun in parts--like MUSIC should be. But with their newer stuff, it's as if It's almost as if they can sit down and say, Hey, we're Autechre, so we can do ... THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS, and a lot of it is just us screwing around, but you'll like it.
And maybe that's the point?
Now that's not to say that some of their newer stuff isn't fantastic (I liked the first half of Untilted a lot), and they do have a few standout tracks on Quaristice and Oversteps, but I just don't like all the arbitration and algorithmic beat/note generation going on. My mind doesn't dig that. With their older stuff it was like, every note I knew they wanted there, every note was placed by the master craftsmen. Now, listening is like, whoa, that's insane, only autechre could get away with that, but I'm not really ENJOYING it, I'm not respecting it as much as their old stuff.
Maybe I'm just not giving this album its time, but I'm pretty sure I could never feel the same way about Untilted, Quaristice, or Oversteps, as I do about Chiastic Slide.
i've not made an opinion on what you've written, as i dont really listen autechre that much. i certainly dont enjoy them nearly as much without having a good smoke first. but i must ask, is your opinion on their output truly from a artistic point of view? dont take me the wrong way, i just mean, are your ears and listening synapses jaded from the last few years of easy access internet media bombardment?
i trust that your opinion is yours from the heart as i generally respect your opinion here and the amazing output of music that you produce yourself. all i'm saying is, if you hadnt had internet access and you had relied on word of mouth and non internet research into music, and this album had landed in your lap, one way or another, would you still feel the same way?
i guess this is all really moot. but i just thought i would ask, as an article all upon its own, and not related to anyone or anything, would your feeling change about oversteps?
saturdayindex wrote:And how come no one ever mentions Chiastic Slide?
Infinite E wrote:i think that they've realised that we will pretty soon reach the point where any person will be able to create any noise possibly imaginable, and consequently that foregrounding sound design, valuing extremities, each time trying to make the last record obsolete, is losing ground as a viable artistic strategy.
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