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As of the last 7 years, they've only said one thing to us..."You okay?" :)


That sample definitley gave me the good kind of chills. Kind of what we all needed to hear these last few years from them.

Funny I was listening to some soundtracks and then suddenly
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oliveoil22 wrote:
As of the last 7 years, they've only said one thing to us..."You okay?" :)


That sample definitley gave me the good kind of chills. Kind of what we all needed to hear these last few years from them.


Before Moz showed us where it came from (excellent job on that!) I though it sounded like a mother consoling a child who fell down while playing. Just really sweet and fit perfectly with the sweetness of the Sometimes remix

Imagine if Sometimes was released in 2020 instead of 2017. I feel that sample would have been even more powerful for the fans! It still is, but damn, there's been quite a few times this year where I've needed someone to ask "you okay?" :)
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I am not so sure if that is the exact same thing but interesting nonetheless. Trevor Jones is an interesting composer.

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Echelon wrote:Actually, I don't even want to think about BOC and how they relate to modern politics. They're kind of my happy place away from it.


Right?! How did this thread become about politics in a forum about an instrumental band? Pls let’s not mix the two.


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Echelon wrote:Actually, I don't even want to think about BOC and how they relate to modern politics. They're kind of my happy place away from it.


Right?! How did this thread become about politics in a forum about an instrumental band? Pls let’s not mix the two.


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The climate is just so hyper-political that I couldn't resist, but I felt guilty immediately after. Especially since we're all using quotes from long dated interviews. I have a good feeling that if/when BOC release something else, we'll have a better idea where they stand on this crazy world or even better, they just focus on the music and ignore politics all together.

Any bets on if they're doing anything for Beautiful Place's anniversary? Is it on the 13th, the 17th or the 27th? I've seen all three mentioned on here and elsewhere.

I feel it will be mentioned or retweeted on Twitter and that's it. But perhaps we'll get a nice lithograph of those iconic Beautiful Place photos. I'd buy that. Some of my favorite BOC art comes from the IBPOITC art.

Wonderful EP btw and a great, humanistic statement about what the government thinks of anarchistic outsiders and weirdos. Though yet again, the music is what matters most on it. Kid For Today opened a great new millennium for BOC.
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BoC always seemed like it was too concerned with something just under the surface of reality to be concerned with the politics of mortal humans, idk. Not like they are “gods” or anything but like they know something we don’t about the supernatural world. At least that’s what I like to feel when I listen. A form of escapism for me I guess.


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It's weird. BOC are the most out-there of the Warp bands but also the most concerned with the human condition. I feel unlike a lot of their friends on Warp, they aim their music towards ordinary people rather than abstractions. But what makes them out-there is a really unusual, slanted view towards humanity. It's like the cover of Headphase. That's just your average young man from the 00s but he's been warped and distorted with psychedelic effects.

They definitely focus more on the undercurrent of life than what's on the surface.
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KoA wrote:Right?! How did this thread become about politics in a forum about an instrumental band? Pls let’s not mix the two.


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BoC referred to Tomorrow's Harvest as a political album. The fact that their music is primarily instrumental doesn't somehow make their work apolitical either - look at Godspeed You Black Emperor (a band BoC have mentioned in at least one interview). The vast majority of their music is instrumental, but they are one of the most radically political bands I know of.

You don't like the political aspect, feel free to sit it out - but it's absolutely part of their work.

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I dont see them as political per se, but more as conduits for the inherent political nature of their source material, be it public information films, Waco, 80s grindhouse horror, or all the other myriad of sounds and samples that make up their albums.

When you revisit the sounds and discourse of the past, from the perspective of the future, it sounds political, because you pick up themes and subliminal messaging that was difficult to unpack at the time.

Of course, you could argue they are explicitly political in the choice of sample material, sounds, and the way they stitch it together. But I dont think its that simple. Its a rhizomic situation where the environment shapes the artist ant the artist tries to reshape and reframe the environment.

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There's no way you spend two albums addressing The Branch Dividians and have the records not be, at the very least, a sliver of a political statement. Add in Dandelion and Energy Warning and you have your answer.

Backtrack to One Very Important Thought.

Fast forward to Tomorrow's Harvest.

BOC's art definitely has political tendancies. Who doesn't?
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KoA wrote:Right?! How did this thread become about politics in a forum about an instrumental band? Pls let’s not mix the two.


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BoC referred to Tomorrow's Harvest as a political album. The fact that their music is primarily instrumental doesn't somehow make their work apolitical either - look at Godspeed You Black Emperor (a band BoC have mentioned in at least one interview). The vast majority of their music is instrumental, but they are one of the most radically political bands I know of.

You don't like the political aspect, feel free to sit it out - but it's absolutely part of their work.


People here are arguing over what their politics even are. Songs like Energy Warning and One Very Important Thought have a left leaning vibe IMO (which would seem to go with the psychedelic aspect of TCH) but people here are saying how they are actually radical right so who knows. If you can’t even tell what their politics are it must not be a huge part of their aesthetic. They have straight up said they don’t like to bring politics in to it. TH is “political” as in its apocalyptic, but that doesn’t necessarily make it a protest album or something. If you think this is “radically political” go look at 80’s hardcore punk and the like. I think it’s people projecting their own politics on to a background of nostalgia and occult imagery that seems significant. Lots of inferring things that aren’t really there.


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Politics are not only left-right, creationism-evolution dualism. Politics is standing up for what you believe to be right. One Very Important Tought to name one example is about freedom of speech, and that is indeed a very political stance.
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Radiobuzz wrote:Politics are not only left-right, creationism-evolution dualism. Politics is standing up for what you believe to be right. One Very Important Tought to name one example is about freedom of speech, and that is indeed a very political stance.

This. To be political in art is not specifically to interact with politics in its traditional sense.
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Left and right is damaging in itself, used to divide and conquer.
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It's worth noting too that "libertarian" is only right-wing in American political lingo. To most of the rest of the world, libertarian just means anti-authoritarian, and there are Libertarians on both the economic right and left. (For example, Murray Rothbard on the right and Robert Anton Wilson on the left)

Also, one of the books BoC recommended was "Why the West Rules - For Now," a book that specifically debunks and criticizes theories of racial/genetic superiority at the basis of nationalist arguments. So whatever their economic views, they're probably not nationalists.

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Maybe the reason they've been so long to release an album/give interviews is because they're afraid their views will upset people in this day and age.

Politics are very hair-trigger nowadays, while back when Music, Beautiful Place and Geogaddi came out, they could more easily get away with saying stuff that was very political.

Everyone is so divided that if BOC were to give another statement like One Very Important Thought or Energy Warning, there are people who would take it the wrong way (on both sides, I may add) and try to "cancel" BOC lol

I foresee this next album is probably going to pull a TCH and just be an album of non-political ear candy for us to take refuge with. Like Sometimes. I think people on both sides need more than ever to hear someone ask "You okay?" haha

Though Plaid's Polymer was actually a great political album from 2019 and nobody cared so maybe it'll be the same with BOC.
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Maybe tomorrow on Adult Swim something might pop up. Friday the 13th, Mars comes out of retrograde, and it’s the start of the 70 day lapse until Jan 22. Fingers crossed

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Navaru wrote:Maybe tomorrow on Adult Swim something might pop up. Friday the 13th, Mars comes out of retrograde, and it’s the start of the 70 day lapse until Jan 22. Fingers crossed


Was that announcement on Adult Swim connected to that stuff? I'd love for it to be true :)

I'd much rather focus on that tbh, especially since there's been no announcements of anything from Warp lately. We already know about the second Autechre album (it's been released digitally) and the Aphex reissue is well, simply a reissue. No actual albums unless we count a Battles remix and some EP from Mark Pritchard.
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Echelon wrote:Was that announcement on Adult Swim connected to that stuff? I'd love for it to be true :)

I'd much rather focus on that tbh, especially since there's been no announcements of anything from Warp lately. We already know about the second Autechre album (it's been released digitally) and the Aphex reissue is well, simply a reissue. No actual albums unless we count a Battles remix and some EP from Mark Pritchard.

Unknown, but the short video they posted on Instagram contained some unidentified music that really sounded a lot like BoC.

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