GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC

[Davism]

I think the over/under for an announcement is July.

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[Sherbet Head]

The 9th is a friday this year. Would be nice to have something for that day, but Warp probably wont because of Squid's album release that day.

Warp (and basically every other label) typically don't make major announcements on Friday. Although hints and murmurs may occur on a weekend (BoC RSD, Aphex blimp, etc.) the big news and reveals will only ever happen from Mondays to Thursdays.

In other news, I noticed yesterday that OPN re-confirmed 2023 as the release date for his new LP, so this may also be dropping between Squid and Kwes.

[Orbited insanitarium]

That gif is astounding, a quick info stamp of just a few facets of life on Earth. Chaleur humaine.

[Helios]

What tweets did they like?

[Echelon]

The 9th is a friday this year. Would be nice to have something for that day, but Warp probably wont because of Squid's album release that day.

Warp (and basically every other label) typically don't make major announcements on Friday. Although hints and murmurs may occur on a weekend (BoC RSD, Aphex blimp, etc.) the big news and reveals will only ever happen from Mondays to Thursdays.

In other news, I noticed yesterday that OPN re-confirmed 2023 as the release date for his new LP, so this may also be dropping between Squid and Kwes.

I hope this is a repeat of 2013 when BOC and OPN dropped albums very close to each other. Both were big staples in their catalog too.

[arvy]

Aliens vibin

[Sherbet Head]

The 9th is a friday this year. Would be nice to have something for that day, but Warp probably wont because of Squid's album release that day.

Warp (and basically every other label) typically don't make major announcements on Friday. Although hints and murmurs may occur on a weekend (BoC RSD, Aphex blimp, etc.) the big news and reveals will only ever happen from Mondays to Thursdays.

In other news, I noticed yesterday that OPN re-confirmed 2023 as the release date for his new LP, so this may also be dropping between Squid and Kwes.

I hope this is a repeat of 2013 when BOC and OPN dropped albums very close to each other. Both were big staples in their catalog too.

Fingers are crossed!

Crazy to think that Dan has put out 6 albums (if you include the Safdie Bros soundtracks) since the last BoC release, and he's not even someone I'd particularly consider to be prolific. Our Scotsmen be slacking

[Fredd-E]

What tweets did they like?

[Echelon]

Fingers are crossed!

Crazy to think that Dan has put out 6 albums (if you include the Safdie Bros soundtracks) since the last BoC release, and he's not even someone I'd particularly consider to be prolific. Our Scotsmen be slacking

Yeah, I never thought of it like that, but Lopatin has a pretty average release schedule of a new album every two years and he's been doing that on Warp since his signing in 2013.

Haha I wish the same could be said for our BOCmen but here's hoping that the gap from June to November is filled with both BOC and OPN albums!

[Helios]

What tweets did they like?

Nice! Around the corner is the “closest” confirmation.

[Geogandhi]

I don't think we can compare OPN's output to Boc's. Both are equally valid in product, as much as any music is... but... OPN scrolling through presets on his Waldorf Microwave XT and coming up with a half decent mini idea, recording it and not progressing it any further than that, collating these half ideas and curating a collection for an album is nothing like what BoC do with their music.
No wrong in any route, just that one results in being prolific with volume and the other results in years waiting for the craft to be "just so".

[arvy]

Yup. Remember when salty fans after the release of TH saying it is uninspired, has no melody, bla bla, OPN album was better and so on and so on.

Who is OPN, he's making music named, (forgot that style) vaporwave?

[Negamuse]

OPN and BoC both use musical metatextuality, music that relies on the listener's familiarity with music that has gone before and the associations between that music and the society that made it, to make statements about today by what they then do to those old forms to break them apart and recombine them into new music.

The sources they reference, the method of transformation, the finished product and the message it contains are very different, perhaps even opposites, but the concept is the same

[Antares]

I don't think we can compare OPN's output to Boc's. Both are equally valid in product, as much as any music is... but... OPN scrolling through presets on his Waldorf Microwave XT and coming up with a half decent mini idea, recording it and not progressing it any further than that, collating these half ideas and curating a collection for an album is nothing like what BoC do with their music.
No wrong in any route, just that one results in being prolific with volume and the other results in years waiting for the craft to be "just so".

From your comment it's obvious that you haven't even listened to any of these recent albums. This description, while a gross over simplification, could possibly apply to his early cassette releases, but the music he's been putting out from R Plus 7 onward is very rich, complex, and multilayered with help from collaborators and mixtures of digital and acoustic instrumentation. He does far more than simply "scrolling through presets" and hasn't releases anything that sounds remotely like vaporwave in over a decade. Yes, his work and BoC's are very different but that doesn't mean he puts no effort into his work.

[Geogandhi]

Yes, I was flippant about the level of input it would take Mr Lopatin to produce an OPN product as opposed to BoC producing an album but I own most of OPN's releases and like stuff on most of them so i'm not being derogatory, just saying they are worlds apart and a reason I believe OPN is more prolific than BoC.
Scrolling through presets on a microwave comment is based on how I felt about Garden of Delete when I first heard it. And yes, I own a Microwave XT to make that judgement

Tell me that Garden of Delete has well crafted songs as opposed to curated ideas that with familiarity and repeat listens become cohesive and enjoyable?

[Antares]

Yes, I was flippant about the level of input it would take Mr Lopatin to produce an OPN product as opposed to BoC producing an album but I own most of OPN's releases and like stuff on most of them so i'm not being derogatory, just saying they are worlds apart and a reason I believe OPN is more prolific than BoC.
Scrolling through presets on a microwave comment is based on how I felt about Garden of Delete when I first heard it. And yes, I own a Microwave XT to make that judgement

Tell me that Garden of Delete has well crafted songs as opposed to curated ideas that with familiarity and repeat listens become cohesive and enjoyable?

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree - this is music, after all, so it's not an objective science or politics we're talking about here - but I've listened to Garden of Delete countless times and have found something new, unique, and fascinating with every play. Tracks like Freaky Eyes and Lift in particular blow me with how much attention to detail and compositional brilliance they possess. I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence, beyond just playing some kind of semantic game. What are songs other than a well-curated series of musical ideas bound together by an overarching structure? Isn't that ultimately how most electronic songs are written anyway?

Admittedly, I don't own the synth in question that he used for the record, but I don't see how that would take away from my enjoyment of it because he still utilizes those sounds to great effect. Many of my favorite BoC tracks are just <:59 fragments of a single synth noodling that they still manage to make sound amazing and work well within the context of their records, something that I think GoD does in spades because the atmosphere and world it creates is so unique.

[Echelon]

I don't think before this debate anyone was comparing OPN and BOC musically. Only their release schedule.

That's said, I'm kind of fascinated by what Arvy said that disappointed people were saying that R Plus 7 was better than Tomorrow's Harvest back in 2013. Honestly, I might have said the same thing back in the day, but TH has grown on me exponentially. It's so much easier to identify with the sadness now then it was back then.

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it's interesting that people preferred r+7 to tomorrows harvest at the time. but I guess because r+7 was a huge left turn in dans discography at the time stylistically, whereas TH just sounded like boc really at the top of their already established sound, people gravitated more towards what sounded "newer". TH has stuck with me loads more with time though. r+7 is honestly one of my least favorite 0PN albums.

thematically and aesthetically boc and opn are somewhat similar but their artistic processes are pretty much the antithesis of each other. opn paints with broader strokes, huge waves of melody and sound. boc find comfort in minimalism while still including a lot of musical substance that's just under the surface. they both reward repeated listens & use similar imagery but in terms of technicality and how they make me feel they're opposites. i love dan though. garden of delete is an absolute masterpiece. and obviously there's plenty of crossover. just some observations.

[arvy]

Tim Hecker - Virgins and Forest Swords album were more memorable than r+7, for my musical taste. Anyway, what a year that was for electronic music; Jon Hopkins - Immunity, Ae - Exai, BOC - Tomorrow's Harvest, Daft Punk - RAM, The Haxan Cloak..

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