16. The Process

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Gazebo4 wrote:While I was listening I was thinking that even though there is a lot of chaos in the world and things might get more extreme in the near future, we dont necessarily have to be fearful of it and focus our attention on it all the time. We don't have to turn a blind eye and should acknowledge it, but it is what it is and it's easy to forget all the beauty that is also happening, right here right now.

What if we divert our attention away from the low vibration stuff and to the higher vibrations? This shift can make a big difference in how we perceive our day to day live.

For me thats what the song embodies, there is a peace, a fragility and a tenderness always here despite all the darkness.


love what you wrote here. I had a similar experience with this track.
I noted this morning, listening again, that the chaotic sounds in it start with a sound like an old TV turning on.
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I like that interpretation too.

Also, the first piano phrase in The Process resembles the main melody in Arena Americanada.

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Den wrote:Also, the first piano phrase in The Process resembles the main melody in Arena Americanada.


Yes, that was the first thing I thought when I first heard it. That bit of piano is one of my favourite bits on the album.

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Fascinating hearing this track has had a calming effect on some, it's been the opposite for me so far - makes me feel anxious and heartbroken.

The first half with the sound of the riot and TTS forces you to confront the darkness of where we're at and heading - the promise of collapse from TH meeting reality. Not sure exactly what we're hearing over the piano in the second half but to me it sounds like a dying bird's last slow breaths, species extinction, biological collapse - I find it almost unbearably sad. But also determined to do everything I can to help avert more of it.

I find the position in the tracklisting interesting as well - definitely flows between the tracks before and after, but Arena Americanada (or the end section at least), You Retreat and Platonia all sound more hopeful and uplifting in places, which makes The Process even more of a gut punch. I guess that's the idea!

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Den wrote:Also, the first piano phrase in The Process resembles the main melody in Arena Americanada.


Yes, that was the first thing I thought when I first heard it. That bit of piano is one of my favourite bits on the album.


It is beautiful to hear that phrase return in a different color.

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I use a lot of TTS for my sleep audio suggestions that has a similar vibe to it (but mine is more sexy) so it feels strangely very close to home. especially the infinitely stronger and seductive jumping out at me makes wonder if this is a more common hobby than I figured


Also is that a A is to B as B is to C sample in there? That weird warped cuckooclocky sound.
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Cupz wrote:Also is that a A is to B as B is to C sample in there? That weird warped cuckooclocky sound.


i felt like i was waiting to hear "i-i-i-i'll be gone about a week" !

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I just heard this track on its own for the first time. Man, it hits hard and is more direct and in your face than anything TH.

And that piano at the end? That is one of the most beautifully sad things I have ever heard. Nearly tore me up.

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Den wrote:
Blink of an eye wrote:
Den wrote:Also, the first piano phrase in The Process resembles the main melody in Arena Americanada.


Yes, that was the first thing I thought when I first heard it. That bit of piano is one of my favourite bits on the album.


It is beautiful to hear that phrase return in a different color.


Isn't it just! Everything seems interconnected on somehow in the last third of this album.

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Gazebo4 wrote:While I was listening I was thinking that even though there is a lot of chaos in the world and things might get more extreme in the near future, we dont necessarily have to be fearful of it and focus our attention on it all the time. We don't have to turn a blind eye and should acknowledge it, but it is what it is and it's easy to forget all the beauty that is also happening, right here right now.

What if we divert our attention away from the low vibration stuff and to the higher vibrations? This shift can make a big difference in how we perceive our day to day live.

For me thats what the song embodies, there is a peace, a fragility and a tenderness always here despite all the darkness.


Yeah, I get this...

Sometimes you only recognise a turning point once it's behind you. The moments that felt confusing, beautiful, or uncertain were quietly carrying you towards the next chapter all along...and I guess, that's the process.

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I can't stop listening to this song ...It feels like that distant flicker of hope that sometimes appears in the depths of depression. You look out across a summer evening and watch a flock of birds crossing the sky. For a moment you're transported back to childhood, connected to a version of yourself that feels both familiar and impossibly distant. So much time has passed that it almost seems unreal — memories, moments, entire chapters of life drifting by like a dream. Reality becomes something strange and fleeting, a beautiful hallucination.

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I think this is my current favorite, keep coming back to it.
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The second half in particular crushes me. It's dripping in melancholy. Absolutely masterful atmosphere building
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bleak. wrote:I can't stop listening to this song ...It feels like that distant flicker of hope that sometimes appears in the depths of depression. You look out across a summer evening and watch a flock of birds crossing the sky. For a moment you're transported back to childhood, connected to a version of yourself that feels both familiar and impossibly distant. So much time has passed that it almost seems unreal — memories, moments, entire chapters of life drifting by like a dream. Reality becomes something strange and fleeting, a beautiful hallucination.


Very relatable!

You see something undeniably pretty and you think to yourself, "Oh yeah! I remember that. I remember happiness."

This track has become a favourite for me as well. Sounds like it could possibly be an outtake from the TH sessions that didn't make it onto that album.

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bleak. wrote:I can't stop listening to this song ...It feels like that distant flicker of hope that sometimes appears in the depths of depression. You look out across a summer evening and watch a flock of birds crossing the sky. For a moment you're transported back to childhood, connected to a version of yourself that feels both familiar and impossibly distant. So much time has passed that it almost seems unreal — memories, moments, entire chapters of life drifting by like a dream. Reality becomes something strange and fleeting, a beautiful hallucination.


Very relatable!

You see something undeniably pretty and you think to yourself, "Oh yeah! I remember that. I remember happiness."

This track has become a favourite for me as well. Sounds like it could possibly be an outtake from the TH sessions that didn't make it onto that album.


I was in a dark place for a few years...and, through the process, I'm in a really positive place now. It's strange though, upon reflection, there was a beauty in that darkness. I feel in the present, I can reach out to that younger version of myself and offer comfort. And I think it's that what I find so intriguing about this song...that balance between light/dark/past/present.

I do hear a lot of people calling Inferno a dark album - but I honestly feel it's quite playful - and this making it a far more enjoyable experience than Tomorrow's Harvest.

Riverside wandering walk thought - I would love to hear some more BOC piano pieces. I love it when the brothers use more organic/stripped back instrumentation.

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rubicon wrote:Fascinating hearing this track has had a calming effect on some, it's been the opposite for me so far - makes me feel anxious and heartbroken.

The first half with the sound of the riot and TTS forces you to confront the darkness of where we're at and heading - the promise of collapse from TH meeting reality. Not sure exactly what we're hearing over the piano in the second half but to me it sounds like a dying bird's last slow breaths, species extinction, biological collapse - I find it almost unbearably sad. But also determined to do everything I can to help avert more of it.

I find the position in the tracklisting interesting as well - definitely flows between the tracks before and after, but Arena Americanada (or the end section at least), You Retreat and Platonia all sound more hopeful and uplifting in places, which makes The Process even more of a gut punch. I guess that's the idea!


Exactly this. But at the same time the monotony of the TTS is so soothing and seductive and the soulfulness of the piano is so miserable it makes for all kinds of constant juxtaposition. I forget what to feel and feel almost everything.
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I just realized before the riot samples begin theres a blip that sounds like turning on a CRT television. So what that pops into my brain is this idea of someone who is just watching the world fall apart on TV and possibly hearing "warnings" over loudspeaker (or on news broadcasts) but it just becomes gibberish because they hear it so much that they phase some of it out and then potentially the second half of the track is the person just trying to find their own peace of mind

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I do like the kind of how the nonsense robot announcer voice is kind of a technological mirror of the speaking in tongues in the background of Father and Son. Big palindrome in a lot of ways this album

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The nonsense reads a lot like an overfitted transformer model. When you're re-training a model and you blast it with new information it can go all sorts of haywire. I once tried fine-tuning an abliterated GPT2 model on a huge pile of raw-text smut and what came out was very similar in structure to this.

Someone here might be retraining models on religious texts?
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I don't believe this track has anything to do with The Process Church of the Final Judgment. If anything, it might rather refer to Kafka.

To me this is the one composition from Inferno that seems to have the theme most relating to current "AI" (LLMs).

The unrest and rioting. Law enforcement radio communications. The synthetic voice word salad nonsense above it all. The simple human melody on the analogue piano. It's a painting in broad strokes.
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