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05. Father And Son

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whos decoded what the scary vocal parts are saying so far?

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Me definitely.
Unintelligible (take the L to the i).
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Alvin wrote:
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((unintelligible) likes me!

Edit: change this to:
(unintelligible) is killing me nicely.
Unintelligible (take the L to the i).
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The voice in this song is stuck in my head. But like...the standout part that's stuck in my head is just the timbral quality of the voice? I'm tremendously impressed by how uncanny it is; it's got that film grain quality to it yet it's hyperreal sounding at the same time. Like each time it appears, it comes in with the strident yet wobbly light of a film before sliding away. Hard to describe. I don't know if I've ever heard a voice quite like that in a song before. It's blazing a new neural pathway in my brain, somewhere close to the sound of horse hooves running in old movies, which was always ear candy to me since I was a kid. Delicious, delicious sounds :)
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The Other wrote:The garbled and distorted vocals sound like a demons on the shoulder of the clean vocals. Kind like a back and forth between an external monologue of what the clean vocals are saying and an internal monologue of what they are hearing in their head.

Also at 2:53 I almost hear “I am the Alpha… I am Omega”


I get that same feeling! Those distorted vocals represent demons or evil spirits mocking the human voices or internal demonic monologue (like you said), but in the song, they also work so well as embellishments. Fascinating track!

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The Other wrote:The garbled and distorted vocals sound like a demons on the shoulder of the clean vocals. Kind like a back and forth between an external monologue of what the clean vocals are saying and an internal monologue of what they are hearing in their head.

Also at 2:53 I almost hear “I am the Alpha… I am Omega”


I get that same feeling! Those distorted vocals represent demons or evil spirits mocking the human voices or internal demonic monologue (like you said), but in the song, they also work so well as embellishments. Fascinating track!


In my humble opinion, you know what else is a demonic mockery of human speech/works? GenAI.
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The father has a real Mr. Rogers quality to his voice

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Redd Panderson wrote:
Distant Nebulus wrote:
The Other wrote:The garbled and distorted vocals sound like a demons on the shoulder of the clean vocals. Kind like a back and forth between an external monologue of what the clean vocals are saying and an internal monologue of what they are hearing in their head.

Also at 2:53 I almost hear “I am the Alpha… I am Omega”


I get that same feeling! Those distorted vocals represent demons or evil spirits mocking the human voices or internal demonic monologue (like you said), but in the song, they also work so well as embellishments. Fascinating track!


In my humble opinion, you know what else is a demonic mockery of human speech/works? GenAI.


Both resonate with me. AI is only is as good or as evil from which the information it pulls from.

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Redd Panderson wrote:The voice in this song is stuck in my head. But like...the standout part that's stuck in my head is just the timbral quality of the voice? I'm tremendously impressed by how uncanny it is


If you listen to the conversation between the father and son from The Jesus Trip movie, the son’s voice naturally sounds uncanny.

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The Other wrote:
Redd Panderson wrote:
In my humble opinion, you know what else is a demonic mockery of human speech/works? GenAI.


Both resonate with me. AI is only is as good or as evil from which the information it pulls from.


There's definitely a gray space where it can be used in more or less nefarious ways, but I personally believe that genAI in its current scale and application is mired in the original sin of exploitation. It's a capitalist vampire machine.
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Redd Panderson wrote:
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Redd Panderson wrote:
In my humble opinion, you know what else is a demonic mockery of human speech/works? GenAI.


Both resonate with me. AI is only is as good or as evil from which the information it pulls from.


There's definitely a gray space where it can be used in more or less nefarious ways, but I personally believe that genAI in its current scale and application is mired in the original sin of exploitation. It's a capitalist vampire machine.


For sure. If you put it in a vacuum its wild to think how much the world has changed since their last release.

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This song is such a blessing for everyone who fell in love with Doseone, Why?, and Odd Nosdam’s music as much as they did.

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where should I upload some audio? I stripped the "vocals" out of this track using Serato Sample, hoping it could clarify some of the unintelligible speech

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skunkman wrote:where should I upload some audio? I stripped the "vocals" out of this track using Serato Sample, hoping it could clarify some of the unintelligible speech

It’ll probably be appreciated on Youtube if it’s well made? Father and Son sample source video already has 20k+ views in a week

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fair enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nirz5Qb0Ejg

it didn't help me figure anything out, but there's definitely some chopped up/backwards woman's voice in there. i reversed it, but that didn't help either

someone else mentioned hearing "the Alpha and the Omega" in there towards the end. i totally hear that as well. i was happy to hear someone mention it because i thought i was nuts

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Theres this one little female vocal in there ath (TO ME) sounds like Liz Fraser. Am I insane?

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skunkman wrote:fair enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nirz5Qb0Ejg

it didn't help me figure anything out, but there's definitely some chopped up/backwards woman's voice in there. i reversed it, but that didn't help either

someone else mentioned hearing "the Alpha and the Omega" in there towards the end. i totally hear that as well. i was happy to hear someone mention it because i thought i was nuts

They sound about the same as they do in the full mix to me. I think they're just incoherent glitches.

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There's a face on page 7 of the deluxe edition booklet that looks like the father in the source video. Not quite though and not from the video.

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desfax wrote:whos decoded what the scary vocal parts are saying so far?



00:55 "Allahu Akbar"

2:00 "Uh oh lets see I've lost track"

2:05 "do you see god, do i reach god"

80% certainty

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I haven’t been able to check yet but from memory there may be a section of Societas X Tape that sounds just like the very beginning of Father And Son.

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