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mechanismj wrote:I haven't brought myself to listening to it yet. I actually watched the needle drop review before and it pretty well laid out what I was thinking it would end up being.

Mexicola wrote:Funnily enough I disappeared down a Swans rabbit hole on Friday. What a band.

Not to derail, but I fully agree. They are incredible, and they have a new song out called It's Coming It's Real.


...and it's wonderful. Perhaps we need a Swans thread?
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Mexicola wrote:
mechanismj wrote:I haven't brought myself to listening to it yet. I actually watched the needle drop review before and it pretty well laid out what I was thinking it would end up being.

Mexicola wrote:Funnily enough I disappeared down a Swans rabbit hole on Friday. What a band.

Not to derail, but I fully agree. They are incredible, and they have a new song out called It's Coming It's Real.


...and it's wonderful. Perhaps we need a Swans thread?


We don't have one?! I am both shocked and appalled!

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Mexicola wrote:He's always on the money. Not a single word I disagree with. Sorry, this is identikit Tool. Tool-lite

So you thought he was on the money with a 6/10 rating of Tomorrow’s Harvest, claiming it had “less depth and detail” than other BoC works? Cause even if he didn’t like TH, that’s just straight up wrong. If there’s one thing it’s not lacking, it’s detail.

Personally I can’t stand Fantano, but to each their own. That’s why I don’t watch him.

I’ve been listening to Tool since I was in 6th grade, so 2001. And I couldn’t disagree more with his assessment. It sounds like Tool because it’s their work, not because they’re trying to copy their own style. They’ve matured towards a more decidedly prog/post-metal direction rather than forcing the rage of their earlier works. Instrumentals were spectacular. Exploration of musical themes went to a level I don’t think any other Tool release has, though Lateralus remains my favorite.

Yeah, I think he’s way wrong. But to each their own.

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Hot take: no album with that cover can be good. Look at it....

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A_Northern_Soul wrote:Hot take: no album with that cover can be good. Look at it....


Well, I will give them points for their creative packaging. Shame it is no longer available or affordable.

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Mexicola wrote:He's always on the money. Not a single word I disagree with. Sorry, this is identikit Tool. Tool-lite

So you thought he was on the money with a 6/10 rating of Tomorrow’s Harvest


Have to say.. TH is not an album that's aged well imo.

As to Tool, yeah I first saw them live in 1993 when they promoted Undertow. I've loved ever album since and still do. But I'm sorry to say I think this one is horribly flat. Where are the hooks? The songs? As you say, each to their own.
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I think there’s more in the way of hooks on FI than 10,000 Days. The title track, Pneuma, Invincible, and 7empest all have what I’d classify as hooks in their refrains. They just take it to a level of prog on par with The Mars Volta or King Crimson and the songs are definitely not concise.

As for TH... how did it not age well? And regardless of your opinion on it, detail is most certainly not something it’s lacking. It’s not my favorite BoC album but it may have more detail than anything else they’ve produced.

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TH held my attention significantly longer than FI, that's for sure.

But please don't let me spoil your enjoyment. I'm certain you don't need me to validate either release.
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To each their own, of course, yet...

It's funny, but some time ago, I made a bet of mine with someone that given APC's insulting 4.9/10, Tool would inevitably score higher on P4K. Obligatory. And they did, by 0.5 points more at 5.4 - above the median - even if not by their standards that will drop to zero.

I now see that my biggest complaint with Anthony "always on the money" Fanta, and this goes back long before this review, other than what's been said about the little time he gives to a record before a review is that he personally puts peer pressure above his own taste. Somewhere, at some point in time, he felt it necessary to do what very few critics who (track record in dispute) enjoy an act do without being entirely offended, which is to say, "disregarding 13 years of absence and my own commentary, I am going to give this what my current audience expects", face over palm, early video talking strongly on the title track with valid concerns. Anthony, mr. best teeth, goes the "rather be insulting route" than an honest review.

Tear it to shreds, man. Give it a low score and little thought. I wouldn't care. Though you go the route P4K went with APC. So close to "meh", but strongish 4/10. I'd be inclined to believe him over most if it weren't his thumbnail. As though that's us, as though we were looking forward to shared disappointment. At that point, coupled with your barebones review, I'm not sure what to feel.

I was hypocritical about Tomorrow's Harvest. In the same way as the MANY problems the new Tool has (mostly length/production, tbh) throughout its runtime, I criticised a good but imperfect record too soon and too heavily.

The one difference is that in both scenarios, I never felt so offended that I wasn't at least happy to see one of my favorite groups back - and under no circumstances, truthfully, did they lose SO MUCH that I'd give them less than the equivalent to a 5. Just me. This would make much more sense but I only have a phone to type on, so greater thoughts....they're there, but my neck is hurting and I'm sick of hitting delete.
mechanismj wrote:'Round these parts they would tend to be meatheads and jocks. Never could figure that out.

Okay...now...wait for fog machine.

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SamuraiDrifter wrote:So you thought he was on the money with a 6/10 rating of Tomorrow’s Harvest, claiming it had “less depth and detail” than other BoC works?


I'm fairly sure his criticism had more to do with the lack of melody, not detail. In fact I remember him praising the production on the album, but complaining it didn't had as many melodies as the past records.
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