The Call & Response Project

[Pantheon]

Oh! Ok, thanks for the clarification! Sure I've got a whole track I'd really love to share. Just let me know when I should share it. It's locked and loaded so to speak.

Great! Just to clarify - you've got several samples from the track ready, and a paragraph or two about how you created it? Also,

This applies to everyone,

Is there any specific image you'd like for your artist page on the website, let me know. Or, if you have an image in mind, but it doesn't actually exist - also let me know.

The Draw!

Picked out of a hat. If you're not happy with your place, we can work it out.

Also, let me know how you'd like to be credited on the website/in the thread from here on.

1. JosephG
2. Infinite E
3. Synthestesia
4. Pantheon
5. Numerator
6. Ignaz
7. Treefingers
8. turquoise70
9. From The Two
10. Cupz
11. Saurus
12. Elephant Face

All sign-ups from now will be added to the end.

Cheers everyone!

Sure, I can break my track down to it's bare components if necessary... I'm still a little bit confused about the sample-type, though. Do you want like a few samples of the song while I'm playing it or do I need to send like my snare sample, hi-hat samples, bass, etc?

Sorry to sound like such a newbie lol



EDIT: Just realized you had a link to the relay idea. Yes I have all this ready. LOL.

No probs,

I think the general idea is to seen a collection of relevant stems from the your song.
So send a version of just your bassline, just your drums etc. To my mind that is the most straitforward way. Individual sounds is unnessisary.

I think most people here would be happy if they are encoded as high bitrate mp3 files, to save upload/download time.

[JosephG]

Alright, that sounds great. I'll convert them shortly, thanks for the tip

[From The Two]

If you ever have a need for a trombone improv-y solo that's bluesy or.. whatever..

i'm in

Absolutely. When I get around to my part I'll let you know. If anyone else has a similar offer, make yourself known!

I think the general idea is to seen a collection of relevant stems from the your song.
So send a version of just your bassline, just your drums etc. To my mind that is the most straitforward way. Individual sounds is unnessisary.

Exactly. If you have, say, a piano melody, send that. If you have a few guitar licks, send those. But yeah, individual samples are unnecessary - the idea is that the next person in the relay can blend their track with yours. I'm open to how you do this, however. You could have a melodic component from the previous piece continue through yours, getting more warped and distorted as the track progresses. I'm definitely looking for something more like that than a simple crossfade.

[Synthestesia]

What about musical keys and stuff? Everything could easily be in different random keys. Oh, and tempos? I think this will be awesome.

[From The Two]

Hm. Maybe I didn't exactly make it clear how this is going to work.

Please read, everyone who is involved!

The tracks aren't going to be mixed together. Otherwise this would just be a compilation/regular mix.

The pieces should be like a response to the previous one. However a response works is up to you. It could use the same rhythm with different melodic elements, or the other way around, or you could completely bend the samples into something that sounds completely different with the same character. It can even be an emotional response. Listen intently to the previous work and see what you can do.

It's like a dialogue between a pair of birds. One bird sets the rhythm, another adds something to the end. Call and response.

I hope you get that analogy.

Talking in a musical way, the stuff should be ambient. A canvas of unique sounds. Feel free - hell, even feel encouraged - to use codas and alternate takes and things.

I apologise if you thought you were signing up for something different, I'm fine if anyone wants out.

As I say, should have made this clear from the start.

[Pantheon]

When you say ambient, is that strict, like no percussion?
I hope not, because I'm in a mood to lay down some sick drums for this project.

and just to clarify once more, will each peace be separate from the previous one or does it have to seamlessly morph into the next one?

Also whats the final result, will we be making this into a downloadable collection?
That would be neato!

[Synthestesia]

Damn I'm stupid. Am I fucking blind or something?
Ok

[From The Two]

When you say ambient, is that strict, like no percussion?
I hope not, because I'm in a mood to lay down some sick drums for this project.

and just to clarify once more, will each peace be separate from the previous one or does it have to seamlessly morph into the next one?

Also whats the final result, will we be making this into a downloadable collection?
That would be neato!

No, absolutely not strict. Anything you like as long as it fits in with the theme of lo-fi, low-key, and warmth. No restrictions on time limits or anything like that. And yes, go wild!

Each piece is seperate, but it is joined in the way I explained above. Joined *conceptually*. Big word. In fact, the whole thing is conceptual. The reaction of one artist to another is very interesting from many standpoints, I feel.

Yes, indeed! There will be a mini-site with a link to download the whole collection, and with bios and your words about your composition. I'll be doing a mock-up of it soon.

[Elephant Face]

So we're basically trading stems with each other, and responding/remixing/sampling/mangling/recontextualizing/morphing them as we see fit?

[From The Two]

Indeed, re contextualising. You're building your own track around stems/samples, and you can choose to do whatever you like with them. The idea is that you would take them towards your own musical style, although I'd also encourage experimentation.

Apologies to anyone who has been the victim of my woeful inability to make myself understandable.

[JosephG]

This is very interesting!

Ok, I have several individual samples rendered to a bitrate of 160KB (mp3), all 6 seconds long and a writing of how I came to make this tune.

The samples are as follows:

The main synth lines and their supporting lines.

The secondary synth lines and their supporting lines.

The drum track.

I also can send the full length song, and if you'd like I'll just send it all in to ya and you can do as you'd like with it. For example, select what you think is most appropriate and rearrange it even if you'd like. Just credit it to bottom feeder. Oh and I can render these tracks up to about 320KB if I need to.

[Pantheon]

When you say ambient, is that strict, like no percussion?
I hope not, because I'm in a mood to lay down some sick drums for this project.

and just to clarify once more, will each peace be separate from the previous one or does it have to seamlessly morph into the next one?

Also whats the final result, will we be making this into a downloadable collection?
That would be neato!

No, absolutely not strict. Anything you like as long as it fits in with the theme of lo-fi, low-key, and warmth. No restrictions on time limits or anything like that. And yes, go wild!

Each piece is seperate, but it is joined in the way I explained above. Joined *conceptually*. Big word. In fact, the whole thing is conceptual. The reaction of one artist to another is very interesting from many standpoints, I feel.

Yes, indeed! There will be a mini-site with a link to download the whole collection, and with bios and your words about your composition. I'll be doing a mock-up of it soon.

Thanks, I fully understand now. Lets do this!

[From The Two]

This is very interesting!

Ok, I have several individual samples rendered to a bitrate of 160KB (mp3), all 6 seconds long and a writing of how I came to make this tune.

The samples are as follows:

The main synth lines and their supporting lines.

The secondary synth lines and their supporting lines.

The drum track.

I also can send the full length song, and if you'd like I'll just send it all in to ya and you can do as you'd like with it. For example, select what you think is most appropriate and rearrange it even if you'd like. Just credit it to bottom feeder. Oh and I can render these tracks up to about 320KB if I need to.

Great! Could you send me everything - the song, the samples and the writing. fromthetwo[at]gmail[dot]com. I'll send it on to Infinite E.

[JosephG]

Sent! Sorry for the lag, my internet service is crap today.

[coffee grapes]

[Synthestesia]

This is going to be awesome! Btw, you'll probaly have to tell me when my turn is up, elsewise I'd just sit here like an idiot

[Numerator]

:D This is going to be awesome! Btw, you'll probaly have to tell me when my turn is up, elsewise I'd just sit here like an idiot

I second this

[From The Two]

:D This is going to be awesome! Btw, you'll probaly have to tell me when my turn is up, elsewise I'd just sit here like an idiot

I second this

Ah yes. Of course I will! I'll be keeping everything organised, so I can pass things on to the next participant.

== Update ==

The project is now called "The Call and Response Project". If anyone has an idea for a better name, let me know.

With regard to the website, is there anyone that can code for it? The one thing I haven't got my head around.

Within the next week I'll be posting up logos, and asking for a vote on what you think is the best one.

[Tomisnever]

I would get involved but this whole thing sounds confusing ha, interesting idea i just hope it doesn't turn into a massive headache!

[From The Two]

I guess it is a little confusing.

What we're doing is making a track each. Based on samples of the track before yours, which are given to you by the person before. Once you're done with your track, you take the dry or processed samples you used, or the melodies/phrases you recorded, and pass that on to the next person in the chain.

The idea is that each piece of music is linked to the one before it. The key to it is that you need to respond to the ideas in the previous one. Then you can either be constructive; building upon what they did - or destructive; mangling the samples so they sound nothing like the originals. It's entirely up to you as long as it fits in with "lo-fi, low-key, and warmth". Based on that you could do anything from folk music to Eno/SotL style ambient.

I hope I explained it clearly enough. I'd love to have you on board Tom, your BoC covers on youtube are awesome.