How many members were there before the dynamic duo?

[pianoforte]

Any and all early material by BOC was 100% written by Mike Sandison & Marcus Eoin. There's absolutely no question of "legal" regarding the BOC back-catalogue, and any hold-up with remastering or curating early work has been purely down to the time involved!

This post has made me very happy.

what you said.

[warphead]

There are also unconfirmed reports (if you go back and read thru interviews, etc) saying that the very early releases (Catalog 3, Acid Memories, etc) featured a lineup of 6 or more members. Of course, the brothers themselves have not given any solid answers to this, and unless we ever get a proper release of that material, we probably never will.

At this point, I think it comes down to finding the other members and dealing with the legal ramifications of releasing the old material. If they just threw it out there all willy-nilly, they could open themselves up to trouble. They might not even be able to find some of those people so the possibility that we might hear all of Duffy or Infinite Sevens or "insert your favorite here" is effectively null.

Any and all early material by BOC was 100% written by Mike Sandison & Marcus Eoin. There's absolutely no question of "legal" regarding the BOC back-catalogue, and any hold-up with remastering or curating early work has been purely down to the time involved!

Maybe they could just throw us a bone or something?

If you read between the lines, that is a bone. It sounds as though they are working/remastering all the old material. I presume a new album is also in the pipe line, as widely speculated.

Perhaps BoC plan to knock all their fans socks off with a killer series of punches? Ages of silence followed by a huge blast of activity. Who knows...

[zeoevil]

If you read between the lines, that is a bone. It sounds as though they are working/remastering all the old material. I presume a new album is also in the pipe line, as widely speculated.

I hate to be a pessimist, but it sounds to me like they haven't even started it because of the sheer volume of work that would have to be done. Assuming they still have the masters of some of that old material (Catalog 3, I'm looking at you), there is a lot of work to be done. If they are doing it at the same time they work on a new album, that would be a monumental task likely to leave even the hardiest musician seriously burned out.

Yet, at the same time, I can't help but imagine how listening to old songs would affect the new material. The idea makes me giggle with joy. Less Geogaddi and more Old Tunes would suit me nicely.

[cubistking1906]

I've got my fingers crossed for some releases from the early boc vaults, and any official Hexagon Sun statements of any sort make my week.

[clearND]

Well, dispelling rumors (or propagating them if they're rife) seems to be the order of the day (or year). Useful info, on the other hand is less than forthcoming

[Cupz]

MDG got a smack on the head. "Damnit Mark", said mike and marcus in unison "the old-catalogue boxset release thing everybody on twoism was talking about was supposed to be TOP SECRET!"

[harpoon dodger]

If you read between the lines, that is a bone. It sounds as though they are working/remastering all the old material. I presume a new album is also in the pipe line, as widely speculated.

Perhaps BoC plan to knock all their fans socks off with a killer series of punches? Ages of silence followed by a huge blast of activity. Who knows...

If you read between the lines, you'd know this is the same response this forum has got regarding the status of any/all future BoC releases from Mr. MDG over the past FIVE YEARS. Not that I'm complaining, appreciate when he speaks up about the Brothers Sandison.

So don't read too much into it. They're just working, as they have been, and will continue to until we get a legit announcement over some new material. And then we can rejoice, etc.

[Jakerpoo]

Read between the lines? He said they haven't done it because of the time commitment. We, as twoismers, clearly have the "it's been a long time since they released new material" template properly bolted into our brains, so when we hear "something like that is a huge time commitment" we immediately think that there's new material coming out.

We're not reading between the lines, we're just reading what we want to read

[Cupz]

Any and all early material by BOC was 100% written by Mike Sandison & Marcus Eoin. There's absolutely no question of "legal" regarding the BOC back-catalogue, and any hold-up with remastering or curating early work has been purely down to the time involved!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIFFVd_O_jY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttDBGiobf_I

[BunnyRabbit]

Any and all early material by BOC was 100% written by Mike Sandison & Marcus Eoin. There's absolutely no question of "legal" regarding the BOC back-catalogue, and any hold-up with remastering or curating early work has been purely down to the time involved!

This seems right somehow. I never thought Chris was involved in the Old Tunes stuff we've heard. If only because, as I understand it, the tapes were given out as kind of promo of what Mike and Marcus have behind them (on top of BOC Maxima) and were to show that they were capable of more than one good CD. If they'd included Chris as well it would have been misleading or improper somehow.

On the other hand this would mean that there is a body of material involving Chris under another name, wouldn't it? MDG? Eh? Any hints there buddy?

[Diadhaidh]

I personally think reading between the lines is pointless; the music, new or old, will come when it comes. We're blessed in that we have a rich and extensive back catalogue and I'm happy to continue to deepen my listening of it until something new is released.

[zeoevil]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIFFVd_O_jY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttDBGiobf_I

Makes me wonder what Paul Russell thinks.

[TaoTapeTao]

I personally think reading between the lines is pointless; the music, new or old, will come when it comes. We're blessed in that we have a rich and extensive back catalogue and I'm happy to continue to deepen my listening of it until something new is released.

[orange hexagon sun]

There are also unconfirmed reports (if you go back and read thru interviews, etc) saying that the very early releases (Catalog 3, Acid Memories, etc) featured a lineup of 6 or more members. Of course, the brothers themselves have not given any solid answers to this, and unless we ever get a proper release of that material, we probably never will.

At this point, I think it comes down to finding the other members and dealing with the legal ramifications of releasing the old material. If they just threw it out there all willy-nilly, they could open themselves up to trouble. They might not even be able to find some of those people so the possibility that we might hear all of Duffy or Infinite Sevens or "insert your favorite here" is effectively null.

Any and all early material by BOC was 100% written by Mike Sandison & Marcus Eoin. There's absolutely no question of "legal" regarding the BOC back-catalogue, and any hold-up with remastering or curating early work has been purely down to the time involved!

Not sure that this is exactly true... If you look at the liner notes on the 'A Few Old Tunes' tape, it credits the "Music70 gang" including Frazer Clarke (Happy Cycling) and ' Esp. Simon... Iain, Chris Horne' - Chris Horne being the artist now known as Christ. I booked him to play a few years ago, he stayed with me, and although I didn't pester him about his time with/in BoC he did say that he was on a track on Twoism and the rights were bought from him when it was re-issued (although I'm not at liberty to disclose which track - it stands out a little from the rest). I can imagine that it would be a mine-field getting clearance or people would want royalties.

As much as I'd love to hear the old stuff, unless one of the friends or family leak it - I don't think we'll get to - apart from the "A Few Old Tunes' and 'Old Tunes Vol 1 and 2' that have done the rounds. Sorry!

[Jinjur]

There are also unconfirmed reports (if you go back and read thru interviews, etc) saying that the very early releases (Catalog 3, Acid Memories, etc) featured a lineup of 6 or more members. Of course, the brothers themselves have not given any solid answers to this, and unless we ever get a proper release of that material, we probably never will.

At this point, I think it comes down to finding the other members and dealing with the legal ramifications of releasing the old material. If they just threw it out there all willy-nilly, they could open themselves up to trouble. They might not even be able to find some of those people so the possibility that we might hear all of Duffy or Infinite Sevens or "insert your favorite here" is effectively null.

Any and all early material by BOC was 100% written by Mike Sandison & Marcus Eoin. There's absolutely no question of "legal" regarding the BOC back-catalogue, and any hold-up with remastering or curating early work has been purely down to the time involved!

Not sure that this is exactly true... If you look at the liner notes on the 'A Few Old Tunes' tape, it credits the "Music70 gang" including Frazer Clarke (Happy Cycling) and ' Esp. Simon... Iain, Chris Horne' - Chris Horne being the artist now known as Christ. I booked him to play a few years ago, he stayed with me, and although I didn't pester him about his time with/in BoC he did say that he was on a track on Twoism and the rights were bought from him when it was re-issued (although I'm not at liberty to disclose which track - it stands out a little from the rest). I can imagine that it would be a mine-field getting clearance or people would want royalties.

As much as I'd love to hear the old stuff, unless one of the friends or family leak it - I don't think we'll get to - apart from the "A Few Old Tunes' and 'Old Tunes Vol 1 and 2' that have done the rounds. Sorry!

Wait.......

Just wait a minute.

Someone who might have been in contact with the brothers and as such might be in possession of one microscopic bit of their DNA stayed with you?

Time for a full forensic sweep of your house.

We could recreate them...from their dna...like that sheep......Sally was it?



J

[orange hexagon sun]

There are also unconfirmed reports (if you go back and read thru interviews, etc) saying that the very early releases (Catalog 3, Acid Memories, etc) featured a lineup of 6 or more members. Of course, the brothers themselves have not given any solid answers to this, and unless we ever get a proper release of that material, we probably never will.

At this point, I think it comes down to finding the other members and dealing with the legal ramifications of releasing the old material. If they just threw it out there all willy-nilly, they could open themselves up to trouble. They might not even be able to find some of those people so the possibility that we might hear all of Duffy or Infinite Sevens or "insert your favorite here" is effectively null.

Any and all early material by BOC was 100% written by Mike Sandison & Marcus Eoin. There's absolutely no question of "legal" regarding the BOC back-catalogue, and any hold-up with remastering or curating early work has been purely down to the time involved!

Not sure that this is exactly true... If you look at the liner notes on the 'A Few Old Tunes' tape, it credits the "Music70 gang" including Frazer Clarke (Happy Cycling) and ' Esp. Simon... Iain, Chris Horne' - Chris Horne being the artist now known as Christ. I booked him to play a few years ago, he stayed with me, and although I didn't pester him about his time with/in BoC he did say that he was on a track on Twoism and the rights were bought from him when it was re-issued (although I'm not at liberty to disclose which track - it stands out a little from the rest). I can imagine that it would be a mine-field getting clearance or people would want royalties.

As much as I'd love to hear the old stuff, unless one of the friends or family leak it - I don't think we'll get to - apart from the "A Few Old Tunes' and 'Old Tunes Vol 1 and 2' that have done the rounds. Sorry!

Wait.......

Just wait a minute.

Someone who might have been in contact with the brothers and as such might be in possession of one microscopic bit of their DNA stayed with you?

Time for a full forensic sweep of your house.

We could recreate them...from their dna...like that sheep......Sally was it?



J

Christ did indeed stay with me, but in an old house - call off the forensic squad! He's a lovely guy and an awesome musician in his own right, we chatted a bit about BoC/HSC, but like I said, I didn't pester him about it. We met up again a few years later and I gave him a circuit bent keyboard too.

The sheep was called dolly btw.

[Jinjur]

There are also unconfirmed reports (if you go back and read thru interviews, etc) saying that the very early releases (Catalog 3, Acid Memories, etc) featured a lineup of 6 or more members. Of course, the brothers themselves have not given any solid answers to this, and unless we ever get a proper release of that material, we probably never will.

At this point, I think it comes down to finding the other members and dealing with the legal ramifications of releasing the old material. If they just threw it out there all willy-nilly, they could open themselves up to trouble. They might not even be able to find some of those people so the possibility that we might hear all of Duffy or Infinite Sevens or "insert your favorite here" is effectively null.

Any and all early material by BOC was 100% written by Mike Sandison & Marcus Eoin. There's absolutely no question of "legal" regarding the BOC back-catalogue, and any hold-up with remastering or curating early work has been purely down to the time involved!

Not sure that this is exactly true... If you look at the liner notes on the 'A Few Old Tunes' tape, it credits the "Music70 gang" including Frazer Clarke (Happy Cycling) and ' Esp. Simon... Iain, Chris Horne' - Chris Horne being the artist now known as Christ. I booked him to play a few years ago, he stayed with me, and although I didn't pester him about his time with/in BoC he did say that he was on a track on Twoism and the rights were bought from him when it was re-issued (although I'm not at liberty to disclose which track - it stands out a little from the rest). I can imagine that it would be a mine-field getting clearance or people would want royalties.

As much as I'd love to hear the old stuff, unless one of the friends or family leak it - I don't think we'll get to - apart from the "A Few Old Tunes' and 'Old Tunes Vol 1 and 2' that have done the rounds. Sorry!

Wait.......

Just wait a minute.

Someone who might have been in contact with the brothers and as such might be in possession of one microscopic bit of their DNA stayed with you?

Time for a full forensic sweep of your house.

We could recreate them...from their dna...like that sheep......Sally was it?



J

Christ did indeed stay with me, but in an old house - call off the forensic squad! He's a lovely guy and an awesome musician in his own right, we chatted a bit about BoC/HSC, but like I said, I didn't pester him about it. We met up again a few years later and I gave him a circuit bent keyboard too.

The sheep was called dolly btw.

Hah...gentleman.

Christ. Is indeed a stunning musician in his own right

Very envious sir

J

[A_Northern_Soul]

^ oh, bloody hell! We're getting a new album in a month's time! One thing at a time....

[zeoevil]

it stands out a little from the rest

Must be Basefree. Has to be Basefree. Everything else on that album is good.

[orange hexagon sun]

Must be Basefree. Has to be Basefree. Everything else on that album is good.

Nope. That is a stand out track, granted, but that's not it... Maybe it stands out to me as I know who wrote it. Listen to this:

http://youtu.be/XXipXsYg1_U

...then listen again. That's my only clue - and I'll neither confirm or deny any other guesses!