GENERAL NEW RELEASE SPECULATION TOPIC PART II

[WATER_CAN-_-]

also seems rather antithetical to Boards of Canada

Interviewer: "Looking back, your previous work Geogaddi had themes that evoked summer, fire, and a sense of religious ritual. What were you seeking at that time?"

Marcus: "With Geogaddi we aimed to bring together themes of music, mathematics, and patterns in nature. Both of us believe that people should take responsibility for themselves. We wanted to show that one can celebrate life, art, and the world without necessarily attributing everything to 'God's work.' Christian art often portrays great works as creations of a higher power rather than the humans who made them. By focusing on the patterns and mathematical principles that govern the universe, Geogaddi suggests that people can celebrate freely without needing religion."

[Davism]

This is where I think the broz are missing something. Mathematical entities like numbers and equations are non-physical and abstract. They can't cause anything, yet the physical universe operates mathematically. We live in a universe that is subject to precise mathematical laws– thus the laws of physics are all expressed through mathematical equations. When it comes to music, Pythagorus discovered that when a vibrating string is is shortened by half it plays the same note one octave higher. The broz are using the "toys in the sand box" without acknowledging that God provided it all for them to create the beautiful music they provide.

Maybe one day they will make a worship album? Anyone else feel like Heard From the Telegraph Lines could be played in a church?

That said, while I'd be happy with a forthcoming space themed album, or whatever they decide to give us, I'd love to see them make an album that was more about light and joy.

[dana]

If that is true, can they explain the Japanese bonus track "From One Source, All Things Depend"

[TaoTapeTao]

This is where I think the broz are missing something. Mathematical entities like numbers and equations are non-physical and abstract. They can't cause anything, yet the physical universe operates mathematically. We live in a universe that is subject to precise mathematical laws– thus the laws of physics are all expressed through mathematical equations. When it comes to music, Pythagorus discovered that when a vibrating string is is shortened by half it plays the same note one octave higher. The broz are using the "toys in the sand box" without acknowledging that God provided it all for them to create the beautiful music they provide.

Maybe one day they will make a worship album? Anyone else feel like Heard From the Telegraph Lines could be played in a church?

That said, while I'd be happy with a forthcoming space themed album, or whatever they decide to give us, I'd love to see them make an album that was more about light and joy.

I don't ascribe God as having anything to do with my listening experiences with BoC. The brothers have stated they aren't religious.

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[♄ope keeper]

Your music often gives the impression of capturing a fragment of music that has been resonating since ancient times. Does this reflect your philosophy about the nature of music itself?

Mike: "That's an interesting observation. We've talked about how making music might not be as simple as inventing something new. There's a theory that all beautiful music already exists somewhere in the ether. Great musicians are like radios tuning in to that music and transcribing it into a recordable form. I've heard Brian Wilson say something similar about coming up with 'God Only Knows,' and I've read similar comments from David Bowie. Maybe we're just tuning into the celestial antenna."

What's the most important aspect of the musical experience for BOC?

Marcus: "Reconstructing and recording what you imagine. That's the ultimate goal of composing—removing the middle ground and directly conveying to the listener what you first heard in your head. I believe that if there is a god, they communicate through music. I've studied musicians who tried to reach god through music, and their creations often made me feel the strangest. It was as if the music wasn't created by them. Listen to Brian Wilson's "God Only Knows". If there's a god to pray to, I think I'll give this a try as well."



May I ask as to why you chose to put the 1min and 44 seconds long silent track "Magic Window" at the end of your album, is there a significance?

Marcus: ""Magic Window" is a phenomenon that creates an unusual frequency and influences the listener and their environment in a special way. On the Japanese edition of Geogaddi we have planted a bonus track "From One Source All Things Depend". It contains a variety of philosophical and religious sentiments..."

Mike: "This expresses the innocence of children who repeat the words and ideas of parents and teachers without much consideration for the true meaning or context. This can be seen as something both pleasant and slightly unnerving, on the other hand."

[tumuli_stump_jumper]

“The broz are using the "toys in the sand box" without acknowledging that God provided it all for them to create the beautiful music they provide.”

This is why I get miffed with “believers”. Authoritative statements about something that can only ever be a mystery.

Enjoy the music. Enjoy the mystery.

[WATER_CAN-_-]

Interviewer: "Some artists driven by a rebellious spirit against modern civilization, like those represented by Radiohead's "Amnesiac" incorporate references to ancient civilizations as a counter-element. Is there a similar nuance in BOC's music?"

Mike: "It's impossible to analyze one's culture without comparing it to the past. For instance, if we compare 2002 with the times of the First or Second World War, we could say we live in a period of great peace. However, if we compare it to the ancient times of the Druids or farmers, we seem to live in a barbaric era. Overall, as artists, we see today's world as full of possibilities but also fraught with terrifying threats. While we're very positive individuals, we're interested in how our generation was born into this great era of paranoia and how that reflects in the cultural products like movies, books, and music."

Interviewer: "Do you sympathize with the idea held by many ancient cultures, like the Celts and Native Americans, that nature belongs to no one"?

Marcus: "Yes. This nature and environment have existed longer than you, me, any government, country, or generation. It should continue to exist, but that requires us to treat it with respect."
Interviewer: "Lastly, what's your view on the syncretism of Druid numbers and Christianity?"

Mike: "I imagine all the religions practiced in the world today are amalgams of various ancient religions. That's why extreme fundamentalism in religion is absurd. Modern rituals and teachings cannot be the original words of God. Everything has been adjusted, mixed, and edited over the ages to suit the regimes of those times."

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[Davism]

“The broz are using the "toys in the sand box" without acknowledging that God provided it all for them to create the beautiful music they provide.”

This is why I get miffed with “believers”. Authoritative statements about something that can only ever be a mystery.

Enjoy the music. Enjoy the mystery.

I realize making a declaration like I did can sound off-putting, but it's coming from a place of love. If someone had good news, I'd want them to share it.

YES, mystery! What I love about this group is that we are all here searching for hints/clues for the next album. I think part of the draw to their music is how they seem to surround each album, from the roll out to the actual sound, with mystery. I want the new release yesterday, but I'll honestly be a little sad when it finally comes out because the chase will be over. I think God uses mystery the same way. If we would dig into searching for hints and clues for God as much as we do for the next album, I wonder if people would become more open to discovering God. There are some 300 old testament prophesies about Christ's return that supposedly came true. What if we all investigated those texts the way HexFox investigates the number correlations?
Just because you believe in God, doesn't mean the mystery goes away.

Sorry for shoe-horning this convo, I have long felt a parallel and have always thought it was pretty cool.

Music is Math.

[qukk_]

It'd be really cool if new Hell Interface material comes out.

[dana]

I think maybe not now, but at some point they will regret not releasing more music to the public.

In their 80s they'll be saying "ahh look at all those tapes, we should have released them while people still gave a shit about our music"

[raybshot]

Can't help but notice the current OPN banner on Spotify looks quite literally like the "boc" logo / font but swapped around and with the C on its axis.

[Riverbed0666]

Your music often gives the impression of capturing a fragment of music that has been resonating since ancient times. Does this reflect your philosophy about the nature of music itself?

Mike: "That's an interesting observation. We've talked about how making music might not be as simple as inventing something new. There's a theory that all beautiful music already exists somewhere in the ether. Great musicians are like radios tuning in to that music and transcribing it into a recordable form. I've heard Brian Wilson say something similar about coming up with 'God Only Knows,' and I've read similar comments from David Bowie. Maybe we're just tuning into the celestial antenna."

What's the most important aspect of the musical experience for BOC?

Marcus: "Reconstructing and recording what you imagine. That's the ultimate goal of composing—removing the middle ground and directly conveying to the listener what you first heard in your head. I believe that if there is a god, they communicate through music. I've studied musicians who tried to reach god through music, and their creations often made me feel the strangest. It was as if the music wasn't created by them. Listen to Brian Wilson's "God Only Knows". If there's a god to pray to, I think I'll give this a try as well."



May I ask as to why you chose to put the 1min and 44 seconds long silent track "Magic Window" at the end of your album, is there a significance?

Marcus: ""Magic Window" is a phenomenon that creates an unusual frequency and influences the listener and their environment in a special way. On the Japanese edition of Geogaddi we have planted a bonus track "From One Source All Things Depend". It contains a variety of philosophical and religious sentiments..."

Mike: "This expresses the innocence of children who repeat the words and ideas of parents and teachers without much consideration for the true meaning or context. This can be seen as something both pleasant and slightly unnerving, on the other hand."

Sidetracking a bit, where did that embedded picture come from? I've been looking for a picture that looks almost exactly like that one for years now. I remember a picture of one of the brothers that used to be on bocpages, and it looked like they were standing inside the studio or something in front of a keyboard. Very similar to this.

I can see the URL for it, but did this come from a magazine article or something? Are there other photos that look similar to this one?

[WATER_CAN-_-]

Interviewer: "Some artists driven by a rebellious spirit against modern civilization, like those represented by Radiohead's "Amnesiac" incorporate references to ancient civilizations as a counter-element. Is there a similar nuance in BOC's music?"

Mike: "It's impossible to analyze one's culture without comparing it to the past. For instance, if we compare 2002 with the times of the First or Second World War, we could say we live in a period of great peace. However, if we compare it to the ancient times of the Druids or farmers, we seem to live in a barbaric era. Overall, as artists, we see today's world as full of possibilities but also fraught with terrifying threats. While we're very positive individuals, we're interested in how our generation was born into this great era of paranoia and how that reflects in the cultural products like movies, books, and music."

Interviewer: "Do you sympathize with the idea held by many ancient cultures, like the Celts and Native Americans, that nature belongs to no one"?

Marcus: "Yes. This nature and environment have existed longer than you, me, any government, country, or generation. It should continue to exist, but that requires us to treat it with respect."
Interviewer: "Lastly, what's your view on the syncretism of Druid numbers and Christianity?"

Mike: "I imagine all the religions practiced in the world today are amalgams of various ancient religions. That's why extreme fundamentalism in religion is absurd. Modern rituals and teachings cannot be the original words of God. Everything has been adjusted, mixed, and edited over the ages to suit the regimes of those times."

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[mr_udders]

Your music often gives the impression of capturing a fragment of music that has been resonating since ancient times. Does this reflect your philosophy about the nature of music itself?

Mike: "That's an interesting observation. We've talked about how making music might not be as simple as inventing something new. There's a theory that all beautiful music already exists somewhere in the ether. Great musicians are like radios tuning in to that music and transcribing it into a recordable form. I've heard Brian Wilson say something similar about coming up with 'God Only Knows,' and I've read similar comments from David Bowie. Maybe we're just tuning into the celestial antenna."

What's the most important aspect of the musical experience for BOC?

Marcus: "Reconstructing and recording what you imagine. That's the ultimate goal of composing—removing the middle ground and directly conveying to the listener what you first heard in your head. I believe that if there is a god, they communicate through music. I've studied musicians who tried to reach god through music, and their creations often made me feel the strangest. It was as if the music wasn't created by them. Listen to Brian Wilson's "God Only Knows". If there's a god to pray to, I think I'll give this a try as well."



May I ask as to why you chose to put the 1min and 44 seconds long silent track "Magic Window" at the end of your album, is there a significance?

Marcus: ""Magic Window" is a phenomenon that creates an unusual frequency and influences the listener and their environment in a special way. On the Japanese edition of Geogaddi we have planted a bonus track "From One Source All Things Depend". It contains a variety of philosophical and religious sentiments..."

Mike: "This expresses the innocence of children who repeat the words and ideas of parents and teachers without much consideration for the true meaning or context. This can be seen as something both pleasant and slightly unnerving, on the other hand."

Sidetracking a bit, where did that embedded picture come from? I've been looking for a picture that looks almost exactly like that one for years now. I remember a picture of one of the brothers that used to be on bocpages, and it looked like they were standing inside the studio or something in front of a keyboard. Very similar to this.

I can see the URL for it, but did this come from a magazine article or something? Are there other photos that look similar to this one?

The one that springs to mind for me based on what you're describing is this photo taken during their set at Warp's 10th anniversary party in 1999.

[luminousdusk]

Looks like Mike's wearing Etnies

[magrathea_ultima]

This is where I think the broz are missing something. Mathematical entities like numbers and equations are non-physical and abstract. They can't cause anything, yet the physical universe operates mathematically. We live in a universe that is subject to precise mathematical laws– thus the laws of physics are all expressed through mathematical equations. When it comes to music, Pythagorus discovered that when a vibrating string is is shortened by half it plays the same note one octave higher. The broz are using the "toys in the sand box" without acknowledging that God provided it all for them to create the beautiful music they provide.

Maybe one day they will make a worship album? Anyone else feel like Heard From the Telegraph Lines could be played in a church?

That said, while I'd be happy with a forthcoming space themed album, or whatever they decide to give us, I'd love to see them make an album that was more about light and joy.

I am sorry, but this is a gross misrepresentation of reality. The physical universe (and because of that, in part, the non-physical follows suit where tied to regular baryonic matter.  However, mathematics, physics is not a framework that serves as the framework to the universe/reality, it is the language we devised to explain it based on our physical senses. So mathematics, physics are really only one language to explain reality. A successful language, but nonetheless it is a creation of humans.

There is no need for the God hypothesis which is, again, a human made scheme and language that was used when our scientific knowledge did not possess the tools to elevate our knowledge through breakthrough discoveries.

Reminder: Everything we can perceive, sense, see, feel, is the 5% of the universe to which we have access given what tools we have. We do know, with good certitude, that there is also dark energy (up to about 68%) and dark matter (about 27%).

tl:dr the humans are awful science sensors since there is roughly 95% of the stuff we have no direct visibility to.

Mandatory on subject of the thread post: The dates go by and nothing related to a new release seems to be more than vaporware. I acknowledge that someone in their inner circle or the brothers themselves took upon a social issue, but they could at least post anything that means something music wise. I feel that they are lost in legal limbo and that may have been the last straw for them, and they just decided to fawk off.

I feel It's something extremely mundane.

and please, the last thing we need from them would be a God worship album... hard no for Me.

[Glen_Glog]

Your music often gives the impression of capturing a fragment of music that has been resonating since ancient times. Does this reflect your philosophy about the nature of music itself?

Mike: "That's an interesting observation. We've talked about how making music might not be as simple as inventing something new. There's a theory that all beautiful music already exists somewhere in the ether. Great musicians are like radios tuning in to that music and transcribing it into a recordable form. I've heard Brian Wilson say something similar about coming up with 'God Only Knows,' and I've read similar comments from David Bowie. Maybe we're just tuning into the celestial antenna."

What's the most important aspect of the musical experience for BOC?

Marcus: "Reconstructing and recording what you imagine. That's the ultimate goal of composing—removing the middle ground and directly conveying to the listener what you first heard in your head. I believe that if there is a god, they communicate through music. I've studied musicians who tried to reach god through music, and their creations often made me feel the strangest. It was as if the music wasn't created by them. Listen to Brian Wilson's "God Only Knows". If there's a god to pray to, I think I'll give this a try as well."



May I ask as to why you chose to put the 1min and 44 seconds long silent track "Magic Window" at the end of your album, is there a significance?

Marcus: ""Magic Window" is a phenomenon that creates an unusual frequency and influences the listener and their environment in a special way. On the Japanese edition of Geogaddi we have planted a bonus track "From One Source All Things Depend". It contains a variety of philosophical and religious sentiments..."

Mike: "This expresses the innocence of children who repeat the words and ideas of parents and teachers without much consideration for the true meaning or context. This can be seen as something both pleasant and slightly unnerving, on the other hand."

Sidetracking a bit, where did that embedded picture come from? I've been looking for a picture that looks almost exactly like that one for years now. I remember a picture of one of the brothers that used to be on bocpages, and it looked like they were standing inside the studio or something in front of a keyboard. Very similar to this.

I can see the URL for it, but did this come from a magazine article or something? Are there other photos that look similar to this one?

Ayo that pic is old as sin it appeared on their old music70 website 1997 or 1998 when that had the flute player and headphones graphics from what I do recall cheers

[tumuli_stump_jumper]

I am sorry, but this is a gross misrepresentation of reality. The physical universe (and because of that, in part, the non-physical follows suit where tied to regular baryonic matter.  However, mathematics, physics is not a framework that serves as the framework to the universe/reality, it is the language we devised to explain it based on our physical senses. So mathematics, physics are really only one language to explain reality. A successful language, but nonetheless it is a creation of humans.

There is no need for the God hypothesis which is, again, a human made scheme and language that was used when our scientific knowledge did not possess the tools to elevate our knowledge through breakthrough discoveries.

Reminder: Everything we can perceive, sense, see, feel, is the 5% of the universe to which we have access given what tools we have. We do know, with good certitude, that there is also dark energy (up to about 68%) and dark matter (about 27%).

tl:dr the humans are awful science sensors since there is roughly 95% of the stuff we have no direct visibility to

Yes. Thank-you. Math is our really poor attempt at an "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything".

I believe lp5 is in the can waiting for distribution.

Sure wish one of those interns at warp could sneak us a listen.

[WATER_CAN-_-]

Interviewer: "Some artists driven by a rebellious spirit against modern civilization, like those represented by Radiohead's "Amnesiac" incorporate references to ancient civilizations as a counter-element. Is there a similar nuance in BOC's music?"

Mike: "It's impossible to analyze one's culture without comparing it to the past. For instance, if we compare 2002 with the times of the First or Second World War, we could say we live in a period of great peace. However, if we compare it to the ancient times of the Druids or farmers, we seem to live in a barbaric era. Overall, as artists, we see today's world as full of possibilities but also fraught with terrifying threats. While we're very positive individuals, we're interested in how our generation was born into this great era of paranoia and how that reflects in the cultural products like movies, books, and music."

Interviewer: "Do you sympathize with the idea held by many ancient cultures, like the Celts and Native Americans, that nature belongs to no one"?

Marcus: "Yes. This nature and environment have existed longer than you, me, any government, country, or generation. It should continue to exist, but that requires us to treat it with respect.

Interviewer: "Lastly, what's your view on the syncretism of Druid numbers and Christianity?"

Mike: "I imagine all the religions practiced in the world today are amalgams of various ancient religions. That's why extreme fundamentalism in religion is absurd. Modern rituals and teachings cannot be the original words of God. Everything has been adjusted, mixed, and edited over the ages to suit the regimes of those times."

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[Davism]

This is where I think the broz are missing something. Mathematical entities like numbers and equations are non-physical and abstract. They can't cause anything, yet the physical universe operates mathematically. We live in a universe that is subject to precise mathematical laws– thus the laws of physics are all expressed through mathematical equations. When it comes to music, Pythagorus discovered that when a vibrating string is is shortened by half it plays the same note one octave higher. The broz are using the "toys in the sand box" without acknowledging that God provided it all for them to create the beautiful music they provide.

Maybe one day they will make a worship album? Anyone else feel like Heard From the Telegraph Lines could be played in a church?

That said, while I'd be happy with a forthcoming space themed album, or whatever they decide to give us, I'd love to see them make an album that was more about light and joy.

I am sorry, but this is a gross misrepresentation of reality. The physical universe (and because of that, in part, the non-physical follows suit where tied to regular baryonic matter.  However, mathematics, physics is not a framework that serves as the framework to the universe/reality, it is the language we devised to explain it based on our physical senses. So mathematics, physics are really only one language to explain reality. A successful language, but nonetheless it is a creation of humans.

There is no need for the God hypothesis which is, again, a human made scheme and language that was used when our scientific knowledge did not possess the tools to elevate our knowledge through breakthrough discoveries.

Reminder: Everything we can perceive, sense, see, feel, is the 5% of the universe to which we have access given what tools we have. We do know, with good certitude, that there is also dark energy (up to about 68%) and dark matter (about 27%).

tl:dr the humans are awful science sensors since there is roughly 95% of the stuff we have no direct visibility to.

Mandatory on subject of the thread post: The dates go by and nothing related to a new release seems to be more than vaporware. I acknowledge that someone in their inner circle or the brothers themselves took upon a social issue, but they could at least post anything that means something music wise. I feel that they are lost in legal limbo and that may have been the last straw for them, and they just decided to fawk off.

I feel It's something extremely mundane.

and please, the last thing we need from them would be a God worship album... hard no for Me.

No, we did not devise, create or invent math. If that's the case, could we create a new mathematical language? Could we all agree that 2+2=5 now? We discovered math, just like how we discovered repeating mathematical patterns in nature (fibonacci sequence). Mathematical truths exist outside of us and are revealed in nature.


If we can only perceive 5% of our universe, what reason do you have to claim that God can't exist. Wouldn't you have to be all knowing to know God isn't real? Metaphysics is exactly why people hypothesize that God is the best explanation, otherwise you fall into the "time of the gaps" fallacy.