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Redd Panderson wrote:Pet hypothesis that just popped into my head:

Perhaps Giraud's Mirror contains material that one or both brothers recorded in 1983, before they even took the name BOC. Inferno possibly finished production in 2025.

That would, technically speaking, make Inferno an album 42 years in the making. What is Inferno about?

In the words of Douglas Adams: "life, the universe, and everything!"


Not to self-reply but I just feel the need to add a slightly implied corollary: I think this would support the idea that this will be the last new music we will hear from BOC. In their timeline, having material from their very very beginning and very very end in Inferno would make it the Alpha and Omega of BOC releases.

There's still room for potential unreleased material to be out, but I believe Inferno is it as far as the arc of BOC's body of work goes. And I feel peace with that, it's quite the bang to go out with.
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Calling Christianity barbaric is hilarious.

Christianity is probably the sole reason why we have any freedom or peace anywhere on earth.

The Bible, churches, perversions and corruption of power are what caused atrocities throughout history. Not the fucking teachings of Christ.

It's not that complicated.

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“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
Matthew 10:34

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children... he cannot be my disciple.”
Luke 14:26

“It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.”
Mark 9:43

“And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Matthew 25:46

“But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.”
Luke 19:27
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Well that got settled quickly! Lol.

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Altruizine wrote:Worth noting that it's the Canadian war museum in the background too but the picture is photoshopped to feature a field and a horseback person in front of it. I'd say that's an important clue to include in the theory that it has to do with that particular Canadian history book. I think it would be silly to assume that just being "Boards of Canada" means they're obsessed with always alluding to Canadian matters


Ohh. I was gonna mention there are many Girauds of note, but this sort of settles it I guess.

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By the way, the MBI stuff reminds me of Local58, but it's maybe a red herring since both Local58 and BoC in general take on similar subject matter, and BoC being an influence on Local58 seems extremely likely. Still, I'll be posting this video and hope I'm not leading anyone down a dead end street:

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akirako wrote:By the way, the MBI stuff reminds me of Local58, but it's maybe a red herring since both Local58 and BoC in general take on similar subject matter, and BoC being an influence on Local58 seems extremely likely. Still, I'll be posting this video and hope I'm not leading anyone down a dead end street:

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By the way, the Local58 video mentions one "Phillip Gerhardt", and amusingly enough the name Gerhardt comes from the same etymological root Giraud comes from. The contents in the video (which a much later entry in the series seems to link to brainwashing people into being AI nodes I think? not sure how much of this is just my personal interpretation) would also match the Memory Death connection, but I'm fairly sure this is all coincidence since the Native Peoples connection seems proven and that's a far more substantial context for the phrase "Memory Death" (i.e. killing any memory of Native cultures and of the atrocities committed against them). Still, it'd be fun if there was a bit of everything and I can't imagine BoC dislike Local58, being such a BoC-core series.

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akirako wrote:By the way, the MBI stuff reminds me of Local58, but it's maybe a red herring since both Local58 and BoC in general take on similar subject matter, and BoC being an influence on Local58 seems extremely likely. Still, I'll be posting this video and hope I'm not leading anyone down a dead end street:

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By the way, the Local58 video mentions one "Phillip Gerhardt", and amusingly enough the name Gerhardt comes from the same etymological root Giraud comes from. The contents in the video (which a much later entry in the series seems to link to brainwashing people into being AI nodes I think? not sure how much of this is just my personal interpretation) would also match the Memory Death connection, but I'm fairly sure this is all coincidence since the Native Peoples connection seems proven and that's a far more substantial context for the phrase "Memory Death" (i.e. killing any memory of Native cultures and of the atrocities committed against them). Still, it'd be fun if there was a bit of everything and I can't imagine BoC dislike Local58, being such a BoC-core series.


This is the video where the Thought Research Initiative is linked to AI, or "QI", the Q standing for "qualiaform". The computer program in the second half is dated "1983,84" too. It's probably not related to the hexiflexi at all but at least it's a good watch I reckon.

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ColinWallis wrote:Calling Christianity barbaric is hilarious.

Christianity is probably the sole reason why we have any freedom or peace anywhere on earth.

The Bible, churches, perversions and corruption of power are what caused atrocities throughout history. Not the fucking teachings of Christ.

It's not that complicated.


The fucking teachings of Christ? Like he’s the actual son of God? That one?

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ColinWallis wrote:Calling Christianity barbaric is hilarious.

Christianity is probably the sole reason why we have any freedom or peace anywhere on earth.

The Bible, churches, perversions and corruption of power are what caused atrocities throughout history. Not the fucking teachings of Christ.

It's not that complicated.


The fucking teachings of Christ? Like he’s the actual son of God? That one?


Well there is a distinction to be made between teachings of Christ which are basically the same teachings as that of Buddha and Rami and basically stems from spirituality in its core essence, which is about coming to the realisation of oneness and dispelling the illusion of separation.

And then there is the bible which is mostly man-made drivel but much more importantly interpreted through a lens of misplaced power dynamics and fear, hence all the atrocities that happened in the name of the church (and for them justifiably in the name of god).

So I can see where the comment is coming from. Also son of god etc. are just symbolics, but that's the thing people take all those things literally because their minds are ignorant and brainwashed and so the cycle continues.
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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
Matthew 10:34

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children... he cannot be my disciple.”
Luke 14:26

“It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.”
Mark 9:43

“And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Matthew 25:46

“But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.”
Luke 19:27


I could cherry pick 5 quotes that you've said in your lifetime with zero context and paint you to be whatever I wanted. Just saying.

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WATER_CAN-_- wrote:“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
Matthew 10:34

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children... he cannot be my disciple.”
Luke 14:26

“It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.”
Mark 9:43

“And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Matthew 25:46

“But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.”
Luke 19:27

For context I'm not a Christian but not Anti-Christian either. In the context of their time I don't think any of these quotes are terrible. Traditional Jewish households must've been controlling and disapproving of any religious laxity so urging his followers to "hate" their family, as in allow the inevitable mutual disowning to happen makes sense. Having his enemies killed in front of him makes sense because the alternative is those individuals doing it to him... which literally happened, remember?

Jesus also (allegedly) said contradictory statements ("love your enemies, don't murder, honor your parents" etc) so maybe even from an objective standpoint that negates these. Considering that he's generally known for the latter narrative and is a symbol for unconditional love, forgiveness, pacifism etc. it's a weak argument for the supposed barbarianism of Christianity.

If Jesus didn't exist, which I know some actually claim but that's irrelevant because he does exist as the most well-known character in history, something worse and more war-mongering would've taken his place

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Redd Panderson wrote:
Redd Panderson wrote:Pet hypothesis that just popped into my head:

Perhaps Giraud's Mirror contains material that one or both brothers recorded in 1983, before they even took the name BOC. Inferno possibly finished production in 2025.

That would, technically speaking, make Inferno an album 42 years in the making. What is Inferno about?

In the words of Douglas Adams: "life, the universe, and everything!"


Not to self-reply but I just feel the need to add a slightly implied corollary: I think this would support the idea that this will be the last new music we will hear from BOC. In their timeline, having material from their very very beginning and very very end in Inferno would make it the Alpha and Omega of BOC releases.

There's still room for potential unreleased material to be out, but I believe Inferno is it as far as the arc of BOC's body of work goes. And I feel peace with that, it's quite the bang to go out with.


I think that sadly, I agree with this take. I've never heard a tune sound more like an end credits outro than You Retreat In Time And Space, and not just on an album level. It really does feel like that's the Boards of Canada End Credits theme.

But damn, this Hexi disk has some weird voodoo shit going on, I can't stop listening to it. Bring on the BOCset on Music70.

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Forgive me while I scrounge around the entrance of this rabbithole: I deeply appreciate the apparent decision to connect the dots between Turquoise Hexagon Sun and Blue Rose in this. That cultural link in the artifact of this hexiflexidisc is a succinct symbol that summarizes a lot of the thematic and stylistic direction of Boards of Canada. It's a very rich parallel.

Unpacking what I mean a bit here, it helps to know Twin Peaks and some of David Lynch's artistic vision. In short, the Blue Rose represents phenomena that are perpendicular to reality as we usually perceive it, that transcend time and space in some way, that are supernatural. Lynch in more than one place has said that he thinks electricity and its ubiquity and influence in our modern lives is a fascinating and underexplored topic. Electronic recordings offer a means of transcending time, and I wonder if it's no accident that the blue rose of Giraud's Mirror has a sort of electric glow to it. Without going into any spoilers, this is a major aspect of virtually all of Lynch's works, alongside the notion that we live in, essentially, a sort of dream. The illusory electrical world of perception.

BOC explores overlapping territory in the insidious nature an organization's influence can have on followers and the broader world. Inextricably tied in with this, again, is electricity; in BOC's context, the sort of demonic potential in the imperfection of recorded (electronic/electronically mediated) materials and their decay. That uncanny imperfection of recordings and their decay reflects the inevitability of human bias and the fallibility of perception and memory. Moreover, the relationship between electronic materials and folks who consume/use them involves power dynamics of influence and control.

The internet as it exists today, threatening presence of social media, surveillance capitalism, genAI, and all, is an extreme example of this--truly a sort of inferno in its own right. It exploits and amplifies our human faults to a point of self-destructive feedback. Simultaneously, it offers a hypnotizing facsimile of experience in the form of a never-ending kaleidoscope of recorded past events while the powers that be exploit and destroy more and more of the world and the human spirit.

I'm not feeling equipped to try to go much deeper with this right now, except to say that making the decay of recorded materials a conspicuous aspect of an artwork goes a long way in showing that a recording is an artifact that seems to reach toward--but never actually succeeds in--transcending time. Like the blue rose and the works of turquoise hexagon sun, it sits in the uncanny, supernatural space between real experience in the present moment, ghosts of the past, and potential futures.

The blue rose hexiflexidisc (don't you love to say that) is like an artifact from outside of time. It sits apart from Inferno and falls enticingly from its book. It's small, flimsy, diaphanous, unassuming, yet it contains a lot. Very much like film! As to the influence it can exert, just look at how long this rambling post got!
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Redd Panderson wrote:
Redd Panderson wrote:Pet hypothesis that just popped into my head:

Perhaps Giraud's Mirror contains material that one or both brothers recorded in 1983, before they even took the name BOC. Inferno possibly finished production in 2025.

That would, technically speaking, make Inferno an album 42 years in the making. What is Inferno about?

In the words of Douglas Adams: "life, the universe, and everything!"


Not to self-reply but I just feel the need to add a slightly implied corollary: I think this would support the idea that this will be the last new music we will hear from BOC. In their timeline, having material from their very very beginning and very very end in Inferno would make it the Alpha and Omega of BOC releases.

There's still room for potential unreleased material to be out, but I believe Inferno is it as far as the arc of BOC's body of work goes. And I feel peace with that, it's quite the bang to go out with.


I think that sadly, I agree with this take. I've never heard a tune sound more like an end credits outro than You Retreat In Time And Space, and not just on an album level. It really does feel like that's the Boards of Canada End Credits theme.


You do realize that's not the last track?

Also according to the 2005 interview they have 3 more albums to release after TCH, if their contract with Warp means anything that is.
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Wildfire wrote:I think that sadly, I agree with this take. I've never heard a tune sound more like an end credits outro than You Retreat In Time And Space, and not just on an album level. It really does feel like that's the Boards of Canada End Credits theme.


You do realize that's not the last track?

Also according to the 2005 interview they have 3 more albums to release after TCH, if their contract with Warp means anything that is.


Yes no don't worry, I have the faculties to figure out there was another track after it! I consider it to be the end credits track in the same way Open The Light is for me on MHTRTC, with One Very Important thought kind of being post-credits stinger i.e outside of the main film.

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Gazebo4 wrote:
Wildfire wrote:I think that sadly, I agree with this take. I've never heard a tune sound more like an end credits outro than You Retreat In Time And Space, and not just on an album level. It really does feel like that's the Boards of Canada End Credits theme.


You do realize that's not the last track?

Also according to the 2005 interview they have 3 more albums to release after TCH, if their contract with Warp means anything that is.


It may not be the last track, but it's not unreasonable to say it's part of the album's close. Granted, yeah, there's a delicious and suggestive ambiguity in track 18.

At any rate, sure, maybe they will release more albums. But my hunch is it'll be cleaned up earlier material from here on out. At the end of the day, though, only two people really know :)
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Wildfire wrote:
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Wildfire wrote:I think that sadly, I agree with this take. I've never heard a tune sound more like an end credits outro than You Retreat In Time And Space, and not just on an album level. It really does feel like that's the Boards of Canada End Credits theme.


You do realize that's not the last track?

Also according to the 2005 interview they have 3 more albums to release after TCH, if their contract with Warp means anything that is.


Yes no don't worry, I have the faculties to figure out there was another track after it! I consider it to be the end credits track in the same way Open The Light is for me on MHTRTC, with One Very Important thought kind of being post-credits stinger i.e outside of the main film.


Haha, right that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying and obviously my comment was a tongue-in-cheek, hope that was okay ;)
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Redd Panderson wrote:
Gazebo4 wrote:
Wildfire wrote:I think that sadly, I agree with this take. I've never heard a tune sound more like an end credits outro than You Retreat In Time And Space, and not just on an album level. It really does feel like that's the Boards of Canada End Credits theme.


You do realize that's not the last track?

Also according to the 2005 interview they have 3 more albums to release after TCH, if their contract with Warp means anything that is.


At the end of the day, though, only two people really know :)


Well, maybe even they dont know yet haha! ;)
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Marcel Giraud mirror: 6 sides (hexagon, akin to the flex-disc) and 5 loops (5 BoC albums) with and beginning and ending place for the candles but connected overall. This bonus disc is like a bookmark / reset and unifies the whole discography together. It’s “everything” self-contained in one journey. The candles illuminate the mirror. The mirror is what the listener gets from their music reflected back on them.

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I mentioned this on keysoc earlier: the whole hexagon obsession is having people thinking there's one more LP on the horizon, but maybe the "6th" album is just listening to their discography again and 177 giraud’s mirror, a literal hexagon disc, is the "6th" release - and a Music 70 labeled one that that. I considered the notion of these albums as a timeline in hindsight: MHTRTC was childhood, Geogaddi teenage years, Campfire Headphase was young to middle adulthood, Tomorrow's Harvest mid-life crisis into golden years, and now Inferno which feels like a sort of metaphorical death and rebirth and closed loop.

To echo other comments people have noticed Inferno has a mirror aspect of it's track listing, side A and side B both have what sounds like a heartbeat/pulse in the tracks, a sort of death and rebirth cycle.

Just a thought.

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